How Far Does the Ice Cube Travel Up the Slope After Release?

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The problem involves an ice cube sliding up a frictionless slope after being released from a compressed spring. The scenario includes parameters such as the mass of the ice cube, the angle of the slope, the spring constant, and the compression distance of the spring.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between elastic potential energy and gravitational potential energy, questioning the assumptions made in the original poster's calculations. There is also a focus on the correct interpretation of energy transformations involved in the problem.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the energy considerations in the problem. Some participants have offered guidance on focusing on gravitational potential energy at the maximum height, while others have pointed out potential errors in the original calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in unit conversions and the importance of considering all forms of energy involved in the motion of the ice cube. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify the definitions of potential energy in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A 50 g ice cube can slide without friction up and down a 30 degree slope. The ice cube is pressed against a spring at the bottom of the slope, compressing the spring 10 cm. The spring constant is 25 N/m. When the ice cube is released, what total distance will it travel up the slope before reversing direction?


Homework Equations


F = ma
W = Fdx
Ws = -1/2kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Ws = -1/2(25)(.1)^2 = 0.125J
V1 = [2(.125/.5)]^1/2 = .7071 m/s
F = .5(9.8)(sin30) = 2.45N
2.45/.5 = 4.9 m/s^2

(.7071)^2 = 2(4.9)ds
ds = .0510m = 5.1cm

apparently I'm incorrect in my reasoning...
 
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When the spring decompresses there is change in K.E as well as P.E. You have considered only change in K.E. Rather look at the end positions that concern you most - the elastic P.E at maximum compression will be equal to G.P.E when block comes to rest momentarily at highest pt.
 


so what is the equation for P.E. then, cause I thought it was -1/2kx^2...

So... EPIC fail... 5g = .05kg

My answer WAS correct, the decimal place was just off by one...
 
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freak_boy186 said:
apparently I'm incorrect in my reasoning...

I am not sure what you mean by that. But, your solution looks reasonable. There is an easier way to do it though. simply set U_{s}=U_{g} without the kinetic energy.
 


By the way, 50g=0.05kg, not 0.5kg.
 


Dear freak_boy I wasn't referring to elastic potential energy rather it was gravitational potential energy . That is why your answer was off by a small margin - the change of height you ignored was small. Nonetheless it is important that you do not ignore it. That is why benhou's method is better.
 

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