How far does the putty-block system compress the spring?

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The problem involves a block and a wad of putty colliding and compressing a spring on a frictionless surface. It is situated within the context of mechanics, specifically focusing on energy conservation and momentum principles.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy and momentum in the context of an inelastic collision. Some question the calculations related to the compression of the spring, while others suggest re-evaluating the energy equations used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the correct application of energy conservation principles post-collision. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the concepts involved, but no consensus has been reached on the final answer.

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Participants note the distinction between conservation of energy and momentum, highlighting the complexities introduced by the inelastic nature of the collision. There is an emphasis on ensuring accurate calculations based on the derived equations.

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Homework Statement



a .46kg block is attached to a horizontal spring that is at equilibrium length, and whose force constant is 22 N/m. The block rests on a frictionless surface. A 5.2x10-2 wad of putty is thrown horizontally at the block, hitting it with a speed of 2 m/s and sticking.

How far does the putty-block system compress the spring

Homework Equations



E1=E2

The Attempt at a Solution



K1U1=K2U2
1/2 (m1+m2) v^2=1/2Kx^2
1/2 (.052+.460)(.203^2)=1/2(22)x^2
i got x=.042 but it is saying this is incorrect
 
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eagles12 said:
1/2 (.052+.460)(.203^2)=1/2(22)x^2
i got x=.042 but it is saying this is incorrect

The equation looks good, but I don't get x=.042, maybe check the calculation again.
 
Your equation is correct.
Plug in your values again and find x again.
 
Yes i was wrong. I always confuse between conservation of energy and conservation of momentum.
 
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azizlwl said:
M2 has no initial energy.
Total energy of the system only 1/2 (.052)(.203^2)
Final energy when all converted to potential energy is 1/2(22)x^2

Hey Azizlwl,

Actually OP's equation is correct.


You cannot apply conservation of energy from start because its an inelastic collision.
Therefore, energy before colllision is not equal to energy after collision.
For velocities after collision, he has used conservation of momentum and thus derived the new energy.

Energy is conserved during the course of journey after the collision, which is exactly the equation OP used :-)
 
azizlwl said:
Yes i was wrong. I always confuse between conservation of energy and conservation of momentum.

No problem at all.Happens to most of us :-)
 

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