How Fast Do Carousel Rides Travel in Miles per Hour?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of carousel rides in miles per hour, focusing on the relationship between angular velocity, radius, and linear velocity. Participants explore the conversion of units and the application of circular motion principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for the linear velocity of two carousel radii using the formula involving angular velocity and radius, yielding approximately 2.4 mi/hr for the first radius and 3.3 mi/hr for the second radius.
  • Another participant questions the use of the factor $\frac{2 \pi}{\text{rev}}$, suggesting confusion about its application in relation to the circumference of the circle.
  • A later reply clarifies that 1 revolution equals 2 pi radians, indicating that the conversion factor is necessary for unit consistency.
  • Participants confirm that the calculated speeds remain the same when using radians instead of revolutions, emphasizing the importance of proper unit alignment.

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Participants generally agree on the calculations and the necessity of unit conversions, but there is some confusion regarding the interpretation of the conversion factor related to revolutions and radians.

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The discussion includes assumptions about unit conversions and the relationship between angular and linear velocity, which may not be fully resolved for all participants.

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the rides on a carousel are represented by $2$ circles with the same center with

$\displaystyle\omega=\frac{2.4 \text {rev}}{\text {min}}$

and the radius are:

$r_{13}=13 \text{ ft} 11 \text { in}= 167 \text { in}$
$r_{19}=19 \text{ ft} 3 \text { in}= 231 \text { in}$

find:

$\displaystyle\frac{\text {mi}}{\text {hr}}$ of $r_1$ and $r_2$

$\displaystyle v_{r13} =
167\text { in}
\cdot\frac{2.4 \text { rev}}{\text {min}}
\cdot\frac{2 \pi}{\text {rev}}
\cdot\frac{\text {ft}}{12\text { in}}
\cdot\frac{\text {mi}}{5280\text { ft}}
\cdot\frac{60 \text{ min}}{\text {hr}}
\approx
2.4\frac{\text{ mi}}{\text {hr}}
$

thus using the same $\displaystyle v_{r19}=3.3\frac{\text{ mi}}{\text {hr}}$

these ans seem reasonable but my question is on the

$\displaystyle\frac{2 \pi}{\text {rev}}$

isn't $\text {rev}$ really to the circumference of the circle
how ever if used the ans are way to large.
not sure why the $2\pi$ works.:cool:
 
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Re: miles per hour on a carousel

karush said:
the rides on a carousel are represented by $2$ circles with the same center with

$\displaystyle\omega=\frac{2.4 \text {rev}}{\text {min}}$

and the radius are:

$r_{13}=13 \text{ ft} 11 \text { in}= 167 \text { in}$
$r_{19}=19 \text{ ft} 3 \text { in}= 231 \text { in}$

find:

$\displaystyle\frac{\text {mi}}{\text {hr}}$ of $r_1$ and $r_2$

$\displaystyle v_{r13} =
167\text { in}
\cdot\frac{2.4 \text { rev}}{\text {min}}
\cdot\frac{2 \pi}{\text {rev}}
\cdot\frac{\text {ft}}{12\text { in}}
\cdot\frac{\text {mi}}{5280\text { ft}}
\cdot\frac{60 \text{ min}}{\text {hr}}
\approx
2.4\frac{\text{ mi}}{\text {hr}}
$

thus using the same $\displaystyle v_{r19}=3.3\frac{\text{ mi}}{\text {hr}}$

these ans seem reasonable but my question is on the

$\displaystyle\frac{2 \pi}{\text {rev}}$

isn't $\text {rev}$ really to the circumference of the circle
how ever if used the ans are way to large.
not sure why the $2\pi$ works.:cool:
It's all about the units, which you didn't include in your rev - rad conversion. 1 revolution = 2 pi radians. For a unit conversion it becomes the factor
[math]\frac{2 \pi ~ \text{rad}}{1 ~\text{rev}}[/math]

-Dan
 
Re: miles per hour on a carousel

so my eq should be this. but ans is them same?

$
\displaystyle v_{r13} = 167\text { in}
\cdot\frac{2.4 \text { rev}}{\text {min}}
\cdot\frac{2 \pi\text{ rad}}{\text {rev}}
\cdot\frac{\text {ft}}{12\text { in}}
\cdot\frac{\text {mi}}{5280\text { ft}}
\cdot\frac{60 \text{ min}}{\text {hr}}
\approx 2.4\frac{\text{ mi}}{\text {hr}}
$
 
Re: miles per hour on a carousel

karush said:
so my eq should be this. but ans is them same?

$
\displaystyle v_{r13} = 167\text { in}
\cdot\frac{2.4 \text { rev}}{\text {min}}
\cdot\frac{2 \pi\text{ rad}}{\text {rev}}
\cdot\frac{\text {ft}}{12\text { in}}
\cdot\frac{\text {mi}}{5280\text { ft}}
\cdot\frac{60 \text{ min}}{\text {hr}}
\approx 2.4\frac{\text{ mi}}{\text {hr}}
$
Yes, the number will be the same, but now the units line up. Keep the 2 pi rad = 1 rev in mind. You'll see it a lot in these kinds of problems.

-Dan
 

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