How Fast Do Two Identical Spheres Travel When They Meet in Space?

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The problem involves two identical spheres in space, initially at rest and separated by a specific distance. The question seeks to determine their speed upon contact, considering only the gravitational force acting between them.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation principles, specifically the relationship between kinetic and potential energy. There is an examination of the variables used in calculations, particularly the distances r1 and r2.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the values used for r1 and r2, suggesting corrections and clarifications. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations and the implications of gravitational forces on the spheres' velocities.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the weak gravitational force in this scenario, which may lead to small velocities upon contact. The problem setup includes specific constraints regarding the masses and distances involved.

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Homework Statement


Two identical 28.5-kg spheres of radius 12.1 cm are 35.3 cm apart (center-to-center distance) and at rest in outer space. (You can assume that the only force acting on each mass is the gravitational force due to the other mass.)

a) If they are released from rest and allowed to fall toward one another, what is their speed when they first make contact?


Homework Equations


ΔE=ΔK+ΔU=0
K=.5mv^2
U=-Gm1m2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


Well ΔK would equal
M*v_i ^2-M*v_f ^2 (because both are moving the 1/2's cancel out)
and ΔU is
-Gm_1 m_2 / r_i - (-Gm_1 m_2 / r_f)

So solved for v I get
v= sqrt(-G m_2 / r_1 + G m_2 / r_2)
which came out to be 6.131*10^-5 m/s which isn't right... I don't see where I went wrong/
 
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Psyguy22 said:

Homework Statement


Two identical 28.5-kg spheres of radius 12.1 cm are 35.3 cm apart (center-to-center distance) and at rest in outer space. (You can assume that the only force acting on each mass is the gravitational force due to the other mass.)

a) If they are released from rest and allowed to fall toward one another, what is their speed when they first make contact?


Homework Equations


ΔE=ΔK+ΔU=0
K=.5mv^2
U=-Gm1m2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


Well ΔK would equal
M*v_i ^2-M*v_f ^2 (because both are moving the 1/2's cancel out)
and ΔU is
-Gm_1 m_2 / r_i - (-Gm_1 m_2 / r_f)

So solved for v I get
v= sqrt(-G m_2 / r_1 + G m_2 / r_2)
which came out to be 6.131*10^-5 m/s which isn't right... I don't see where I went wrong/

I can not see either, if you do not show your work in detail. What have you used for r1 and r2?

ehild
 
For r1 I have .121+.353+.121 which is .595 m
for r2, it's just .242 m
 
your value for r1 should just be .353 (like point masses) and you're correct that r2 is .242 (distance between centers of mass at collision). The spheres will not have much velocity, as gravity is a very weak force, so it shouldn't be surprising that the value is relatively small
 
Psyguy22 said:
For r1 I have .121+.353+.121 which is .595 m
for r2, it's just .242 m

The center-to center distance was given as 0.353 m , so r1=0.353.


ehild
 

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