How High Does the Block Go on the Ramp?

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The problem involves a block of mass 5.00 kg that is given an initial velocity of 8.0 m/s and travels over a rough surface before sliding up a ramp inclined at 30°. The objective is to determine how high the block ascends on the ramp before coming to rest, considering the effects of kinetic friction on the rough surface.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to work done against friction and the application of energy conservation principles. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about the ramp's surface and the relevance of the ramp's angle in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the assumptions regarding the ramp's friction, while others express concerns about the angle's role in the calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and considerations about the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about whether the ramp is frictionless or rough, as the problem does not specify this detail. Additionally, the relevance of the 30° angle in the context of energy conservation is being debated.

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Homework Statement



A block of mass 5.00 kg is given an initial velocity of 8.0 m/s. It travels 5.0 m over a rough surface with μ[itex]_{k}[/itex] = 0.250. It then slides up a ramp that rises at a 30° angle above the horizontal. How high does it go before coming to rest


Homework Equations



W = FΔs
F[itex]_{k}[/itex] = μ[itex]_{k}[/itex] N
Δk = 1/2 m v[itex]_{f}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex] - 1/2 m v[itex]_{i}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex]
v = √2gh

The Attempt at a Solution



W = μ[itex]_{k}[/itex] Δs = (0.25)(5)(9.8)(5) = 61.25 J

-61.25 = Δk
-61.25 = 1/2 m v[itex]_{f}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex] - 1/2 m v[itex]_{i}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex]
-61.25 = 2.5 v[itex]_{f}[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex] - (0.5)(5)(8[itex]^{2}[/itex]
v[itex]_{f}[/itex] = √((-61.25+160)/2.5)

v = √2gh
h = v[itex]^{2}[/itex]/2gh
h = 6.28[itex]^{2}[/itex]/(2)(9.8)
h = 2.01m


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is the ramp frictionless or is it also a rough surface? It looks like you assumed that it is frictionless, but I guess it makes sense to do that since it doesn't specify that in the problem.

But yes, assuming the ramp is frictionless, it looks like you did it right.
 
I believe the ramp is frictionless but the one thing that bothers me about my solution is the lack of the 30° angle in my calculations.
 
yeah that would be a piece of extraneous information for this problem

since you are using conservation of energy, the path that the object takes doesn't matter, only the initial and final states
 

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