How Is the Electric Field Distributed Around Concentric Cylindrical Conductors?

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The discussion revolves around the electric field distribution around two concentric cylindrical conductors, where the inner conductor has a specified linear charge density and the outer conductor is uncharged. Participants are exploring the implications of these conditions on the electric field at various points, including inside, between, and outside the conductors.

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  • Participants are attempting to derive the surface charge density from the given linear charge density and questioning the interpretation of the electric field outside the outer conductor. There are discussions about the expected uniform distribution of charge on the inner conductor and the implications for the electric field calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the problem's setup and the calculations involved. Some participants express confusion regarding the relationship between the electric fields of the inner and outer conductors, particularly in relation to the values provided in the textbook.

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There is a noted discrepancy between the expected electric field values and those given in the textbook, leading to further questioning of the problem's assumptions and interpretations. Participants are also addressing the potential miscommunication regarding the definitions of charge densities involved.

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Hello:

Can someone help?

I have 2 concentric cylinders which are both conductors. The inner conductor has linear charge density of 6 n C/m. The outer conductor has no net charge. The inner conductor has R of 0.015m, the distance between the inner conductor and the inner wall of the outer conductor is 0.03m, and the outer conductor has a radius of 0.065 m. I am to find the E field at all Rs.

So within the inner conductor, the R = 0.
outside the inner conductor but before you reach the inner wall of the outer conductor, the R is E*2*pi*R*L = 6e-9 * L/epsilon. So you simply that and you get 108/epsilon.
IN between the inner and outer wall of the outer conductor the E field is again 0.

But what about the E field outside the outer conductor? I know that it has to do with the ratio of the density, but I am not sure what I am doing wrong but I get the wrong answer when I say that the outer density is proportional to the radius ( = 6 * 0.065/0.015)? Any help would be great. THank you.
 
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Your question does not appear to be properly stated. The inner cylindrical conductor has a non-zero radius, so one would expect a surface charge density, but instead you gave a linear charge density with units C/m. Is this problem part of a larger question or is it standalone?
 
Hi,

This is the question as is given in the book. But couldn't I derive the surface density from the linear density by the following: sigma*2*pi*R = linear charge density? Where sigma is surface charge density and R is the radius of the cylinder. This is the problem. My problem is I don't see why the outside cynlinder should have an E field that is 1.46 times that of the inner E field?
 
The problem with this is that it is stated at the outset that the inner cylinder is a conductor, which means we would expect the charge to be uniformly distributed over the cylindrical surface. Hence I expected a surface charge density. But instead the linear charge density is given. I don't know how to interpret this.

Secondly, assuming your interpretation of this is correct, I don't see what you mean. What does "1.46 times of the inner E-field" mean? It's clear, since the outer cylinder is uncharged and hence does not affect the E-field of the configuration that the E field outside is 6n/(2pi*epsilon*r). It's the same in the empty space between the two conductors, only that the r value is different. So what does "1.46 times" refer to?
 
That is what I would expect too. But the answer in the book is that the E field between the inner cynlinder and the inner wall of the outer cynlinder is exactly as you provided, which is 108 N/m^2. But then the answer they give for the E field outside the outer cylinder is for some strange reason 158 N/m^2?

Thanks.
 

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