How is the IBV3 Vector Applied in a Circle?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the IBV3 vector in the context of a circle, specifically focusing on geometric properties and calculations involving points on the circle and a triangle formed by these points. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to vector operations and area calculations.

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  • Participants discuss the coordinates of points A and B on the x-axis based on a radius of 6, with A at (6, 0) and B at (-6, 0).
  • There is a calculation involving point C at (5, √11) and its distance from the origin, which is asserted to be 6.
  • One participant presumes that vector AC can be derived from the origin, leading to a calculation of vector differences.
  • A calculation of the cosine of the angle between vectors OA and OC is presented, yielding a value of 5/6.
  • Area calculations for triangle OAC are discussed, with one participant asserting the area is (5/2)√11, while another later corrects this to 6√11.
  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with the question posed, suggesting it may have been crafted with undue pride by its author.

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There is no consensus on the area of triangle OAC, as participants provide differing calculations. Additionally, there is a mix of agreement on some vector calculations but contention regarding the interpretation of the question and the area result.

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Participants have not resolved certain assumptions regarding the definitions of the vectors and the context of the triangle area calculations. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the problem and its requirements.

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(a)

if $r=6$ and $\displaystyle \pmatrix { 6 \\ 0 } $ then $A$ is $6$ from $0,0$ on the $x$ axis
and if $\displaystyle \pmatrix { -6 \\ 0 }$ then $B$ is $-6$ from $0,0$ on the $x$ axis

and if $\displaystyle \pmatrix { 5 \\ \sqrt{11} }$ implies $\sqrt{5^2 + 11}=6 = OC$

(b) I presume $\vec{AC}$ can be from origin so
$\displaystyle \vec{OC}-{OA} = \vec{AC} = \pmatrix{-1 \\ \sqrt{11}}$
(c) $\displaystyle\frac{\vec{OA}\cdot\vec{OC}}{||OA||\ ||OC||}
=\frac{30}{36}=\frac{5}{6}
$

(d) area is just $\frac{5}{2}\sqrt{11}$
 
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So far , so good :)
 
karush said:
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(a) if $r=6$ and $\displaystyle \pmatrix { 6 \\ 0 } $ then $A$ is $6$ from $0,0$ on the $x$ axis
and if $\displaystyle \pmatrix { -6 \\ 0 }$ then $B$ is $-6$ from $0,0$ on the $x$ axis

and if $\displaystyle \pmatrix { 5 \\ \sqrt{11} }$ implies $\sqrt{5^2 + 11 }=6 = OC$

(b) I presume $\vec{AC}$ can be from origin so
$\displaystyle \vec{OC}-{OA} = \vec{AC} = \pmatrix{-1 \\ \sqrt{11}}$

(c) $\displaystyle\frac{\vec{OA}\cdot\vec{OC}}{||OA||\ ||OC||}
=\frac{30}{36}=\frac{5}{6}$

(d) area is just $\frac{5}{2}\sqrt{11}$

I cannot tell how much I dislike the question. I am sure that whoever wrote it is so proud of her/himself.
Look. you know that the coordinates of $$C:\binom{5}{\sqrt{11}}$$.

So in the triangle $$\Delta OAC$$ the altitude from $$C$$ has length $$\sqrt{11}$$.

Thus what is the area of $$\Delta OAC~?$$
 
Oops it triangle ABC. area=$6\sqrt{11}$
 

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