How Is the Rydberg Constant Calculated from Photon Absorption Wavelengths?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the effective Rydberg constant and nuclear charge from observed photon absorption wavelengths in an ionized atomic gas with a single electron. The wavelengths provided are 13.5 nm, 11.4 nm, and 10.8 nm.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between photon wavelengths and energy levels, questioning how to determine the energy levels from the absorption data. There is an exploration of converting wavelengths to photon energies and identifying patterns in the energy spectrum.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for photon energies and discussed the differences between these energies and the energy states of hydrogen. There is an ongoing exploration of the ratios between energy levels and how they relate to the problem at hand, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the photon energies calculated are not the energies of the electron states, raising questions about the relevance of the absorption wavelengths provided. There is also mention of the need to consider the nuclear charge and its relationship to the energy levels.

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Homework Statement



The following photon wavelengths are observed in absorption at room temperature from an ionized atomic gas with a single electron orbiting the nucleus: λ=
13:5 nm, 11:4 nm, 10:8 nm. Use this data to determine the effective Rydberg constant
and the nuclear charge.

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I know that energy is emitted/absorbed when electron transits between different energy levels.
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Thing is, I don't even know what the n=1 energy is, to find the rydberg constant. I can't tell what the energy levels are just from the photons absorbed, as they could be between any two levels.
 
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Don't give up before you even started.
Did you convert the wavelength values to photon energies?
Which patterns do you expect in the energy spectrum?
 
mfb said:
Don't give up before you even started.
Did you convert the wavelength values to photon energies?
Which patterns do you expect in the energy spectrum?

I expect, the gaps between energy levels to become smaller as you go higher up..
 
mfb said:
Don't give up before you even started.
Did you convert the wavelength values to photon energies?
Which patterns do you expect in the energy spectrum?

13.5nm -> 92.1 eV
11.4nm -> 109.0 eV
10.8nm -> 115.1 eV

So

n=1 is 92.1 eV
n=2 is 109.0 eV
n=3 is 115.5 eV

Then what is the point of giving us the other 2 absorption wavelengths?
 
unscientific said:
So

n=1 is 92.1 eV
n=2 is 109.0 eV
n=3 is 115.5 eV

Then what is the point of giving us the other 2 absorption wavelengths?
Photon energies are not the energies of states!

Which photon energies (not electron energy states) do you get for a hydrogen atom? Which ratios do you have between those values? Do you see a similarity to your problem?
 
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For Hydrogen:

E1 = -13.6 eV
E2 = -3.4 eV
E3 = -1.51 eV
E4 = -0.850 eV

Based on the wavelengths given, 92.1eV, 109eV, 115.5eV are differences in energy between En and E1.

The ratio of first energy level between the gas and hydrogen = Z2, where Z is the proton number of the gas.
 
mfb said:
Photon energies are not the energies of states!

Which photon energies (not electron energy states) do you get for a hydrogen atom? Which ratios do you have between those values? Do you see a similarity to your problem?

Ok using the relation ΔE = (1- 1/n2)

First emission:
92.1 = E1(3/4)

Second emission:
109 = E1(8/9)

Third Emission:

115.5 = E1(15/16)

These ratios match, so somehow these are the emissions from the second, third and fourth energy levels.

E1 = (13.6)Z2

Solving, Z = 3 (Lithium) and E1 = 122.4eV, R = (13.6eV)/hc = 1.09*107
 
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That is correct.

R = (13.6eV)/hc = 1.09*107
I think the factor of 9 is missing here, and the last value should have units.
 

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