Photons emitted by Hydrogen and helium atoms

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The discussion revolves around the emission of photons by excited hydrogen and helium atoms, specifically focusing on the Balmer series and related calculations of wavelengths and kinetic energy. The problem involves understanding atomic transitions and the application of the Rydberg formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the maximum and minimum wavelengths of the Balmer series for hydrogen and the corresponding kinetic energy of the recoil atom. There is an attempt to apply the Rydberg formula and consider the implications of changing from hydrogen to helium.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided specific values for wavelengths and energy calculations, while others are exploring the implications of using the Rydberg formula for helium. There is an ongoing inquiry into whether a different R value is needed for helium and how to approach the calculations for kinetic energy in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the Rydberg formula is typically derived for hydrogen, raising questions about its applicability to helium and the need for adjustments in calculations. There is also mention of a lack of coverage of certain topics in class, which may affect understanding.

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Homework Statement


An excited hydrogen atom can emit photons of various wavelengths.

a) What is the maximum wavelength of the Balmer series (in nm) (5pt)

b) What is the minimum wavelength of the Balmer series (in nm) (5pt)

c) Corresponding to part b), what is the kinetic energy of the recoil hydrogen atom, in the unit of eV? ( mH = 938MeV / c 2 )10pt)

d) Assume the helium atom (Z=2) has the mass that is 4 times of hydrogen, what should happen to your answer to part c), if the atom is changed from hydrogen to helium. Show you results in terms of KHe / KH = ? (10pt)

Homework Equations


1/λ = R (1/nf2 -1/ni2)

R = 1.097*107 m-1

mv = Ephoton/c ----> due to momentum conservation

KE = 0.5 * (mv)2 * 1/m

The Attempt at a Solution


a.) max wavelength happens when energy level goes from n = 3 to n = 2

λmax = 656 nm

b.) the min wavelength happens when the energy level goes from n = ∞ to n = 2

λmin = 365 nm

c.) Ephoton = h*c/λmin = 3.41 eV
mH = 938 MeV/c2

KEH = 6.19 GeV

d.) I'm not sure how to do this part since the rydberg equation is meant to be used with hydrogen
 
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You have a derivation for energy levels of general hydrogenic atoms which has Z in it.
The Rydberg formula is derived from this with Z=1.
 
We never covered this in class but I found the equation with the included Z2 term in it. But would I then use the same R value or is there some specific helium R?
 
You can answer that yourself by looking at the definition of "R".
Note: you almost certainly covered this in class.
Where did you find the equation with the R value in it?
 

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