How Is the Total Maximal Elastic Energy Calculated in This System?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total maximal elastic energy in a system involving springs and a mass. The original poster presents a scenario with given parameters, including spring constant and mass, and seeks clarification on their calculations related to elastic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of elastic energy using the formula provided, questioning the values used for displacement and equilibrium. There is discussion about the point at which the springs are maximally stretched and the interpretation of the variable A.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, with some confirming calculations and others seeking clarification on specific terms and assumptions. There is a recognition of differing answers, prompting further inquiry into the setup and calculations.

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There is mention of a discrepancy between the original poster's calculations and a reference answer from a book, indicating potential misunderstandings or assumptions about the system's behavior. The discussion also touches on the equilibrium condition and the forces involved in the system.

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Homework Statement


Given the scheme
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nm943gleo2nc8ft/Screenshot%202016-08-28%2013.47.33.png?dl=0
Springs' constant k=40 N\m
mass of bulk m=6kg
The wooden bulk is released at rest when all the springs are not stretched
Question: What is the elastic total maximal Energy of the system?
2. Homework Equations

E=0.5*K*(deltaX)^2
A=0.375m
Maximal kinetic energy 11.25Joul

The Attempt at a Solution


If I substitute all the givens in the equation given in section 2 above, I get Etot=4*0.5*40*0.375^2=45/4=11.25
Let me know if it's correct because what I saw in the book answers is 45J, which doesn't match my calculations. Maybe I'm missing something
Thanks for your attention
 
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How did you get deltaX and what is A?
Initially the springs are at rest, at which point are they stretched maximally?

I get the same answer as the book (assuming g=10m/s^2).
 
Let me see if I got it right:
A-is the point beyond the initial rest point, in which we get equilibrium. So you've got to add the 0.375 of movement towards the bottom so eventually we get 0.75 of stretch of the upper springs down and equally 0.75 shrink of the bottom ones.
Well, you get the 0.375 from equilibrium equation on the bulk:
mg=4k*deltaX
is that what you meant?
Thanks for the response
 
Edothegray said:
So you've got to add the 0.375 of movement towards the bottom so eventually we get 0.75 of stretch of the upper springs down and equally 0.75 shrink of the bottom ones.
Right. And if you plug that in, you get 45 J.
 
gr8! Thank you
 

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