How long would remains be detectable?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the detectability of human remains and evidence of intelligent life on Earth after human extinction, considering geological, paleontological, and technological factors. Participants speculate on the duration and methods through which such evidence might be identified by hypothetical visiting aliens.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how long it would take for signs of human existence to be detectable, referencing geological evidence like sedimentary layers from past events.
  • Another participant notes that the extraction and refinement of metals and resources would require geological processes like subduction, which take hundreds of millions of years.
  • A claim is made that human remains could be detectable for up to 1 billion years.
  • One participant emphasizes the role of fossilization and paleontology, arguing that fossilized remains would be easily detectable for millions of years if human bodies are not completely vaporized.
  • Another participant suggests that if aliens were to visit, they might find human-made objects on other celestial bodies, such as the Huygens probe or devices left on Mars, depending on their detection methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the longevity and methods of detecting evidence of human existence, with no consensus reached on the specific timeframes or methods of detection.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the completeness of fossilization and the effectiveness of detection methods by hypothetical aliens remain unresolved.

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Say human beings went extinct. How long would it be detectable to a visiting alien that intelligent beings once lived there? I'm not talking about infrastructure that disappears relatively quickly.

For example: we knew an asteroid impacted Earth 65mya long before we found the crater because of a sedimentary layer of ash that envelopes the planet.

In the early 1900s we pumped tons of lead into the air, then during the later half, we dumped tons of nuclear waste into the air. How long would the geology show the telltale signs of a fire-controlling / nuclear capable species?
 
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Well, of our workable metals and other resources such as oil, have been extracted from the top few km, refined into pure forms, and distributed across the surface of the Earth.
It'll require subduction to return them, which is hundreds of millions of years.

It depends on how sophisticated their detection systems are.
 
newjerseyrunner said:
Say human beings went extinct. How long would it be detectable to a visiting alien that intelligent beings once lived there?

1 billion years
 
Are you ignoring fossilization and paleontology in general? Unless all human bodies are somehow vaporized, detecting fossilized remains of billions of human beings will be trivially easy, and for millions of years.

The fossil record of life on Earth before and after the impact you refer to is good, for example, and if something like that body hit us now, it would be just as good.

May I suggest you have a look at a college-level introduction to geology/paleontology? Your questions will be answered there.
 
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If aliens are visiting our star system, maybe they would be able to find objects we created and left on other worlds like the Huygens probe if evidence on Earth was lacking. We've also deposited plenty of devices on Mars which could be found in the far future. Like Dave said, it would depend on what their method of detection would be.
 

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