How Many Bound States in a Double Delta Function Potential?

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The discussion revolves around the potential v(x)=-c[d(x+a)+d(x-a)], specifically focusing on the number of bound states that this double delta function potential may have. Participants are exploring the implications of their calculations related to the Schrödinger equation and the characteristics of the wavefunctions involved.

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  • Participants discuss the structure of wavefunctions and boundary conditions, with one original poster attempting to derive the energy associated with bound states. There is mention of solving for coefficients and the nature of solutions being even and odd due to symmetry. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the energy value and the conditions for normalizability of wavefunctions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning the original poster's approach. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the solutions and the potential for multiple bound states, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the results or the number of bound states.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem, including the need for clarity on the graphical representation of equations and the potential for confusion regarding the labeling of constants. There is also a deadline mentioned, indicating a time constraint for the original poster.

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Off the top of their head, does anyone know how many bound states the potential v(x)=-c[d(x+a)+d(x-a)] might have?

I went through the problem as follows: got a growing exponential to the left of -a, got a growing plus a decaying exponential inbetween -a and a, and a decaying exponential to the right of a.

I set them equal to each other at the delta barriors (aka the one left of -a equal to the one inside, and the one right of a equal to the one inside).

I then solved the Schrödinger equation for both of the barriors, and then normalized the three components.

With this set of equations i did 2pgs of alegbra lol, and finally got a E equal to -[(16ma^3)/(2h^2)+4a+(h^2)/(2m))

i don't knwo how to interpret this energy for the number of bound states, because its always negative (i think). So either its all wrong :( or that is the one and only state, or what? i really don't know if my strategy or my excecution is right, Please help!
 
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I don't recall getting analytical solutions to delta-potentials.

The forms of your wavefunctions are correct. So, you should have 4 arbitrary coefficients (correct?). You also have the parameter 'c' for the strength of the potentials. And you have 4 equations from the BCs. If you solved the equations correctly, you'd get the even and odd solutions (ie : you would end up with something like [itex]A^2 = B^2 \implies A = \pm B[/itex], where A,B are the coefficients of the wavefunction between the two spikes) as expected from the symmetry of the problem. Plugging these two cases back in will give you two transcendental equations. You can solve these graphically, find the solutions, and check if they give rise to normalizable wave functions.

PS : According to what you've written above, there's only one bound state energy. This may very well be troe, if one of the two solutions gives something unphysical (and needs to be thrown away).
 
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Sorry my E= -[(16mc^3)/(2h^2)+4c+(h^2)/(2m)) where c is actually labled alpha in the problem (i don't know how to do that fancy stuff lol so i just choose a random constant and forgot what i labled it)

Yes i have four coefficients, which ended up pairing off. I got the result that the two tied up in the space -a<x<a were equal, and the two to the right and left of a, and negative a (respectivly) were equal.

Im not sure what you mean by transcendental equations, and i managed to solve directly not graphically, which is nice if i did it right :)

My solutions to the scrodinger equation looked like this: Bke^(-ka)-Cke^(ka)-Ake^-ka)=(-2mc)/h^2*(wavefn(-a)+wavefn(a)), (this was at -a). After i solved for the constants, i just chose one of my region specific functions, and plugged in -a and a respectivly for the values of wavefun(-a) and wavefun(a). and i also plugged in for the constants B,C,and A you see up there. This is what led to my energy value, because k=sqrt(-2mE)/h
 
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And can someone tell me how to do the graphic equation writing. (lol no clue how to describe it)

The A^2=B^2 stuff in Gokul's post
 
Due thursday :)
 
Shock said:
And can someone tell me how to do the graphic equation writing. (lol no clue how to describe it)

The A^2=B^2 stuff in Gokul's post
Haven't read your earlier post yet...I'm still at work and have little time.

For LaTex formatting see : https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997

Also, to see the code for what I've written, just click the text (in my post) and a pop-up will display the code used to generate that text.
 
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Yes i have four coefficients, which ended up pairing off. I got the result that the two tied up in the space -a<x<a were equal
Are you sure equality is the only possibility you arrived at ? Like I said before, you should have gotten that their squares are equal. This gives rise to two possible solutions.
 

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