How many cats remained after women in West Cornwall lost sacks and cats?

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The problem involves a scenario in West Cornwall where women are carrying sacks containing cats. The challenge is to determine how many cats remain after certain losses occur among the women and their sacks. The variables involved are the number of women (w), the number of sacks each woman carries (s), and the number of cats in each sack (c).

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  • Participants are attempting to express the total number of cats remaining in terms of w, s, and c, while discussing the implications of losing sacks and cats. Questions arise regarding the calculations of the losses and the interpretation of the results.

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There is an active exploration of different interpretations of the problem, with participants questioning each other's calculations and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the multiplication of fractions, and there is a suggestion to test the results with specific numerical examples to verify the reasoning.

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Participants are encouraged to use specific values for w, s, and c to establish a pattern before generalizing the solution. There is an emphasis on understanding the problem setup and the implications of the losses described.

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In West Cornwall, I met w women each carrying s sacks, each containing c cats. However, a third of the women then lost half their sacks, and the remaining women lost half their cats from a third of their sacks. How many cats remained, it terms of w, s and c?2. The attempt at a solution

w.s.c - (1/3w.1/2s) - (2/3w.1/2c.1/3s)

. = multiplication?
 
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Almost. Consider the case w=3, s=2, c=100, and ignore the cat losses for now (so just 1/3 of the women loses 1/2 their sacks). Can w.s.c - (1/3w.1/2s) be true?

* is the usual (ascii) multiplication sign.
 
Hallsoflvy why is (w/3)(s/2) sacks so wsc/6 cats. I do not understand this part...

(w/3)(s/2) = 2w3s/6
 
Natasha1 said:
Hallsoflvy why is (w/3)(s/2) sacks so wsc/6 cats. I do not understand this part...

(w/3)(s/2) = 2w3s/6

The correct result is as HallsofIvy says:
[tex]\frac{w}{3} \frac{s}{2} = \frac{ws}{6}[/tex]
You multiply the numerators together to get the new numerator, and multiply the denominators together to get the new denominator. Why would you think otherwise?
 
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(w/3)(s/2) = (ws/6)

then

(2/3w)(s/3)(c/2) = wsc/9
 
How did Hallsoflvy get to 11 wsc/6

I get (w/3)(s/2)(c/1) = wsc/6
and
(2/3w)(s/3)(c/2) = wsc/9

Hence
wsc/6 + wsc/9 = 5wsc/18
 
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Natasha1 said:
I get (w/3)(s/2)(c/1) = wsc/6
and
(2/3w)(s/3)(c/2) = wsc/9

Hence
wsc/6 + wsc/9 = 5wsc/18
Subtract that from the total, and you get the same result as me.
 
swc - 5wsc/18 = 13wsc/18 (is this correct?)
 
Natasha1 said:
swc - 5wsc/18 = 13wsc/18 (is this correct?)

You need to get into the habit of testing answers with some real numbers. This sort of problem should be easy to check. Try, for example:

w = 3, s = 6, c = 10

It's even a good idea to work out the problem with these actual numbers first, to establish the pattern of the solution. Then, extend your specific solution using 3, 6, 10 to a general one using w, s, c.
 

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