How many combinations of unique arrangements are there?

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The discussion revolves around the number of unique arrangements of pixel cubes in a hypothetical 1 billion x 1 billion x 1 billion cube, composed of half black and half clear/colorless pixels. Participants explore the implications of finite versus infinite combinations and the mathematical approaches to calculating these arrangements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks about the number of unique pixel arrangements in a large cube and questions whether the number of shapes could be infinite, assuming black pixels represent solids.
  • Another participant challenges the idea of moving from finite arrangements to infinite, seeking clarification on the transition between these concepts.
  • A participant proposes simplifying the problem to a smaller 4x4x4 cube, calculating permutations and suggesting that while permutations are finite, the combinations of shapes could be infinite.
  • Another participant corrects their earlier calculation regarding the number of combinations for the smaller cube and suggests using Pascal's triangle for the larger cube's arrangements.
  • One participant critiques the use of the term "combinations," suggesting it may not align with standard mathematical usage and proposes a clearer phrasing of the question regarding unique arrangements.
  • A participant provides a mathematical formula for calculating subsets and applies Stirling's approximation to estimate the number of arrangements for a large set, noting that some calculators might indicate this as infinity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions of combinations and arrangements, with no consensus reached on the correct terminology or the implications of finite versus infinite arrangements.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings of mathematical terminology, the complexity of calculating large combinations, and the assumptions underlying the transition from finite to infinite arrangements.

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If there was a 1 billion x 1 billion x 1 billion cube made of 3D pixel cubes, and half of them are black and half of them are clear/colorless, then how many combinations of unique pixel arrangements are there?

Would the amount of shapes/objects in this cube be infinite? (Assuming the black pixels represent solids)
 
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question99 said:
If there was a 1 billion x 1 billion x 1 billion cube made of 3D pixel cubes, and half of them are black and half of them are clear/colorless, then how many combinations of unique pixel arrangements are there?

Would the amount of shapes/objects in this cube be infinite? (Assuming the black pixels represent solids)
You have posited a finite number of things. How would you get from finite to infinite?
 
First you could simplify the combinations of pixel cubes to 4x4x4, so 64 pixels total with 32 black and clear. To simplify the cube you could make it a string 64 pixels long that would be folded into a cube after arrangement. Then to find all possible permutations you would do: 64P32=4.822199248906x1053 total possible combinations. This would be bigger with a billion3 pixels.
This is their total possible combinations as a cube but also as a string, so this is the total possible combinations for any shape and as you could arrange it into an infinite number of shapes in space. The combinations of shape would be infinite, but the permutations would be finite.
 
StanEvans said:
First you could simplify the combinations of pixel cubes to 4x4x4, so 64 pixels total with 32 black and clear. To simplify the cube you could make it a string 64 pixels long that would be folded into a cube after arrangement. Then to find all possible permutations you would do: 64P32=4.822199248906x1053 total possible combinations. This would be bigger with a billion3 pixels.
This is their total possible combinations as a cube but also as a string, so this is the total possible combinations for any shape and as you could arrange it into an infinite number of shapes in space. The combinations of shape would be infinite, but the permutations would be finite.
Sorry I got it wrong, for my example of a 4x4x4 it would be 64C32~1.83x1018. So with 1 billion it would be 1 billion cubed choose half one billion cubed. I can't find any calculator to find this value, but it will be the 10000000003/2 th entry on the 10000000003 th line on Pascal's triangle.
 
You've used the word "combinations" in a way that isn't the standard usage in mathematics. You should probably just omit the word and say, "How many unique pixel arrangements are there?". Then the answer is just 2^1000000000000000000000000000, which is a humongous number. Unless you did mean a combination, in which case, you should probably reword your question to be more clear.
 
For a set of 2N items, the number of subsets of size N is called 2NC2 ("2N choose 2") and is exactly equal to (2N!)/(N!)^2.

Stirling's approximation to K! is

K! ~ √(2πK) KK e-K.​

This gives

2NC2 ~ √(4πN) (2N)2N e-2N / (√(2πN) NN e-N)2

which simplifies to

22N / √(πN).​

For N = 109, this is approximately 3.7965 × 10602,059,986.

(Some calculators will say this is infinity.)
 
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