How much of what you know gets used?

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The discussion revolves around the extent to which individuals utilize their academic knowledge and skills in their professional lives. Participants explore the relationship between educational experiences and practical application in the workplace, touching on themes of memorization versus understanding in education.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that while they possess a significant amount of academic knowledge, much of it remains unused in their current jobs.
  • One participant notes that although they do not frequently use factual knowledge, they apply analytical skills developed during their education regularly.
  • Several participants question the effectiveness of the educational system, particularly regarding its focus on memorization of facts rather than fostering a deeper understanding of concepts.
  • Some argue that the quality of the educational institution plays a crucial role, suggesting that good programs encourage synthesis of knowledge rather than rote memorization.
  • There is a suggestion that the perception of education as merely memorization may be more applicable to high school and lower levels, rather than college and beyond.
  • One participant emphasizes that mastery of a subject requires a foundational knowledge of its factual basis, countering the idea that memorization is entirely ineffective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the effectiveness of the educational system, with some asserting that it promotes memorization while others defend the notion that quality programs encourage deeper learning. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various educational experiences, indicating that their views may depend on personal backgrounds and the specific institutions they attended. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of educational methodologies and their impact on knowledge application.

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I have a decent size reservoir of academic knowledge. I have a lot of expertise that goes unused at my job. If I changed jobs (the number of times of which is something I'm trying to minimize), I could probably use more of what I know.

That being said, there's this PhD that I work under. I have a broad idea of what he knows, and a general idea of what he does at his job. I'm nearly certain that much of what he knows also goes unused, although his job relates more strongly to his area of expertise...so he seems to be in the same boat as me, although he probably makes much much more that me, which would be a good perk.
 
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If you mean "how many facts do I use", not many. If you mean "how much of the analytic skills that were developed in school do I use", rather a lot.
 
Put me down for what Vanadium 50 said.
 
ditto
 
So why is it that the educational system teaches nothing but memorizing facts?
 
Hmoob said:
So why is it that the educational system teaches nothing but memorizing facts?

have you taken a calc class?
say proofs for example...
sure, you can memorize them, but if you fail to understand them, you miss the whole point.

or a programming class,
sure you can memorize syntax, but if you can't apply it to solve problems, your not programming.
 
Hmoob said:
So why is it that the educational system teaches nothing but memorizing facts?

That's only true if you go to a crappy school. A good program will expect you to synthesize your knowledge.
 
Hmoob said:
So why is it that the educational system teaches nothing but memorizing facts?
I can't think of any college degree program for which this is true. Certainly it may hold for high school and below, but no where else.
 
Hmoob said:
So why is it that the educational system teaches nothing but memorizing facts?

That may certainly seem to be the case with many classes. OTOH, as a student, you are, by definition, supposed to be learning a body of knowledge. It's not realistic to claim mastery of a subject without knowing the factual basis of the subject.
 

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