How much water can evaporate from a room with given humidity and temperature?

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The discussion centers on calculating the mass of water that can evaporate from a room with a volume of 680 m³ at 25°C and 80% humidity. The correct answer is 3.1 kg, derived from the actual vapor pressure calculation using the formula RH = actual VP/saturated VP. Participants clarified that the density equation should be applied to water vapor, and emphasized the importance of unit conversions, specifically converting moles to grams. The confusion arose from miscalculating the conversion factors and misunderstanding the relationship between pressure and humidity.

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Homework Statement


If the humidity in a room of volume 680m^3 at 25C is 80%, what mass of water can still evaporate from an open pan?

Homework Equations



RH = actual VP/Saturated VP
Density = mass/volume

The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea. I'm assuming there is some external information I'm supposed to use, but I don't know what it is. The answer to this problem is apparently 3.1kg.

RH = actual/saturated, so Actual vapor pressure = saturated*RH = 23.8 torr * 0.8 = 19.04torr.

Now I'm assuming you use the density equation, but do I use the density of water? Water vapor? dry air?

How do I relate density back to the actual pressure?

EDIT: Another thought... using PV=nRT?
If I do a whole lot of converting I get P=0.025atm, V = 680,000L, and T = 298K, where R = 0.0821 L*Atm/Mol*K.
Even at that, I still end up with 12.6kg of water, which is still wrong...

Considering in my review section this is labeled as a "beginner review" problem, I have to believe I'm missing something major here...
 
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Can the humidity in the room go above 100%?
 
no. . . .
 
to get to maximum saturation I still need an additional 4.76 torr of pressure, but I've run it through using those numbers and I'm getting further away from the right answer.
 
TrpnBils said:
to get to maximum saturation I still need an additional 4.76 torr of pressure, but I've run it through using those numbers and I'm getting further away from the right answer.

I think your 4.76 torr partial pressure is correct. Check your conversion of this into atmospheres. How did you do this?
 
4.76 torr / 760 = 0.006 atm

I'm about 90 minutes into this problem and finally figured out how to do it about 5 minutes ago. Part of it was that I was looking for an answer of 3.1kg when I should have been looking for 3100 on the calculator since the conversion from moles turns it into grams. I ended up with 174 moles of water after a couple of attempts (both in units of atmospheres and liters as well as a shot with units of pascals and cubic meters). when I multiplied that by 18g/mol for water I would end up with 3132 kilograms (or so I thought)...but I still needed to convert that.

I look at this and wonder why the heck I couldn't see this obvious mistake from the get-go...it's really not that hard.
 

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