How Much Work is Done to Change the Circular Path's Radius?

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The problem involves a block sliding on a horizontal table, initially moving in a circular path with a specific radius and speed. The radius is changed by pulling a string, and the question focuses on the work done during this change in radius.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss conservation of energy and momentum as potential starting points. There are questions about whether energy is conserved during the radius change and the implications of defining the system.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of energy conservation in the context of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the work-energy theorem, but there is no consensus on the conservation of energy in this scenario.

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Participants note the importance of defining the system to assess energy conservation and the role of non-conservative forces. There is uncertainty about the nature of forces acting on the block as it moves towards the center.

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A small block of mass 0.91 kg slides without friction on a horizontal table. Initially it moves in a circle of radius r0 = 0.63 m with a speed 1.5 m/s. It is held in its path by a string that passes through a small hole at the center of the circle. The string is then pulled down a distance of r0 - r1 = 0.12 m, leaving it at a radius of r1 = 0.51 m. It is pulled so slowly that the object continues to move in a circle of continually decreasing radius.

How much work was done by the force to change the radius from 0.63 m to 0.51 m?


basically i am completely lost, any help would be appreciated
 
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Well, you know that two things are always conserved, energy and momentum. A conservation theorem may be a good place to start.
 
ya i am still stuck
 
First get a sense of what is happening. The ball is going around in a circle with a constant velocity. Some kind of force is keeping the ball from simply shooting outward. The whole time, energy will be conserved. Now, as the ball moves towards the center by whatever force, is energy still conserved?
 
no its not
 
Id start by looking at the work energy theorem.
 
You don't believe that energy is still conserved? What would it lose energy to?
 
Well, one can't make a statement about energy conservation until the system is defined.
 
robb_ said:
Well, one can't make a statement about energy conservation until the system is defined.

Not really sure what you mean by this, but the system is defined enough to tell whether or not non-conservative forces are at play, and whether or not the work energy theorem can be used.
 
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You and I may have a system in mind where energy is conserved, but the OP may not, i.e. just the rotating block?
 

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