How quickly will a can sink in water with a small hole at the bottom?

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The problem involves a cylindrical can with a small hole at the bottom, submerged in water, and seeks to determine the rate at which the can sinks as water enters through the hole. The context is fluid dynamics, specifically relating to pressure and flow rates.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive an expression for the sinking time based on fluid flow principles but expresses uncertainty about their calculations. Some participants question whether the pressure change inside the can has been adequately considered in the original poster's approach.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. One participant has acknowledged a potential oversight regarding pressure effects and is considering revising their approach. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are still examining the implications of the assumptions made.

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There is a mention of the original poster's struggle with the solution and a request for assistance, indicating that they may be working under typical homework constraints that discourage direct solutions from others.

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Homework Statement



A cylindrical can of height h and base area A is immersed in water to a depth ho and left to sink down. A small hole of area 'a' exists at the bottom of the base of the can. Determine how quickly the can sinks.
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Homework Equations


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Thus, vo = sqrt(2gy)
AV = avo
V: velocity of fluid w.r.t. the container

The Attempt at a Solution



Thus,
dy/dt = (a/A)sqrt(2gy)
or, dy/sqrt(y) = (a/A) sqrt(2g) dt
or, on integrating from ho to h, i get

t = sqrt(2/g)[sqrt(h) - sqrt(ho)]A/a

I am not getting the answer, where did i go wrong.
 
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In your diagram, y is shown to be the depth of the bottom of the can from the water surface. Have you taken into account that the pressure inside the can will also increase as the water flows in, thus decreasing the rate of water flow inside. Maybe you have, but why don't you just write the justification for your equation?
 
ah.. thx.. i didn't do that.. i will try to work it out again...
 
i m not able to do ... can you help me with the solution pls
 

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