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How smart is Tony Stark?

  1. Dec 30, 2016 #1
    In real world terms. I mean, he became a top expert in thermal nuclear physics in one night. That's ridiculous.
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  3. Dec 30, 2016 #2
    If it were possible to quantify how non quantifiable some of your questions are, this would be the least quantifiable I have seen. (Seriously though, I like some of your questions).

    No idea.

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  4. Dec 30, 2016 #3


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    A related question might be:
    Is Tony Stark smarter than he is Self-Confident (AKA arrogant)?
    (Going for more non-quantifiable here.)
  5. Dec 30, 2016 #4
    I like to talk about ideas more. There's more discussion that way, even if things end up more open ended.
  6. Dec 30, 2016 #5
    Maybe not. That's his downfall. But consider this, if he became a top expert overnight, he must have learn hundreds of facts/constants/equations etc in a few hours. At the very least, he must be a very rapid speed reader with a photographic memory, in addition to a very high intellect just to understand it. I don't know if this has ever been done in human history.
  7. Dec 30, 2016 #6
    What do you mean one night? I've seen the movies but I must have missed something. My impression was that he had long training in whatever...
  8. Dec 30, 2016 #7
    That's why I like them.
  9. Dec 30, 2016 #8
    It's in the original avengers film. He had training in his specific field where he built his ironman suit. I suppose its a variety of engineering, computer science and subfields of physics.

    At time 1:50

    Actually, he learned thermal nuclear astrophysics in one night. It's been a while since I've seen the film. He was at a such a level where he could work with Bruce Banner whose been in the field for years.
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    Maybe he has a plug like Neo or Johnny Mnemonic.
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    It could be an undocumented accessory for his glowy power thing.
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    There is no real world analogue because Tony Stark is a superhero. By definition he has abilities that are beyond the norm of human experience. He is listed by Marvel as having superhuman intelligence, which is the source of the rest of his capabilities and tools (from his megacompany to the suit)

  13. Dec 30, 2016 #12
    hahaha me too. Love ops spree of questions. : - )
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  15. Jan 4, 2017 #14


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    He did? To what are you referring? I only saw the movies, didn't read the comics. In the movies he is described as a lifelong science/engineering prodigy and early graduate of MIT.
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    People who learned nuclear physics (or SR, GR, QM, ...) in one night are legion. They pop up all the time on PF :wink:
  17. Jan 4, 2017 #16
    I mean I learned quantum physics by watching Michiu Kaku documentaries, so how hard can nuclear physics be?
  18. Jan 4, 2017 #17
    You all missed Tony's secret weapon, the University of Youtube.
  19. Jan 4, 2017 #18
    You guys are arguing the question all wrong. In the Marvel world, you can only make relative comparisons between characters. Usually this is "Who would beat the snot out of whom," but "Who's smarter" is a perfectly acceptable riff if a bit dull.

    Of course to really duel in this manner, you are supposed to provide detailed evidence to back your claims, in the form of references to scenes from the comic books and/or movies (for the sake of rigor it's best to specify one or the other domain, not both). @FallenApple has provided the best example of this so far with TS's one-night stand with thermonuclear astro-whatever, thus rating him higher than Banner unless a counterpunch is offered. In the absence of a direct confrontation between the two parties you look for common denominators - time to learn thermo yadda yadda was a good one - and no problem with going out several degrees of separation.

    SO . . .

    Is Tony Stark smarter than Bruce Banner (see above movie clip)? Doc Doom? Reed Richards? Hank Pym? Etc. For the flavor of it when done properly see this thread - http://forums.superherohype.com/archive/index.php/t-480797.html
    - from which I have pulled this quote at random:
    On the other hand you can rate geniuses in much more interesting ways than how smart they are at science; see for example this backwards countdown in which you-know-who trumps the field: http://www.mtv.com/news/2137900/marvel-scientist-ranking/
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  20. Jan 4, 2017 #19
    How many bits of information does one have to digest before being an expert in thermonuclear physics? How many bits of information can a regular person digest in one night? If such calculations were possible, we could rate his superhuman intelligence against superman's strength for example. But I'm not sure we can get either number estimated down to an order of magnitude...
  21. Jan 4, 2017 #20
    A lot of bits. There should be an upper limit on intelligence though. Since information in the brain cannot be processed at faster than light speed.

    If one where to do a calculation, it wouldn't be surprising to find Tony Starks IQ to be in the thousands.

    He reminds me of this guy

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