How Thick Should the Aluminum Sheet Be for the Box to Float as Described?

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The discussion revolves around determining the thickness of an aluminum sheet for a closed cubical box that floats in water, with a specific condition of 1/4 of its volume above water. The subject area includes concepts of buoyancy, density, and volume calculations related to materials.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the effective density required for the box to float and derives a relationship involving the mass of the aluminum sheet and the dimensions of the cube. Some participants question the sufficiency of the information provided to reach a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some expressing concerns about the lack of information necessary to solve it. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in relating surface area and volume in this context, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

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Participants note the potential confusion arising from the professor's course materials and the adjustments made to problems, which may contribute to the perceived difficulty in solving the homework question.

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A closed cubical box made of aluminum sheet floats in water with (1/4) of the volume above water. Determine the thickness of the sheet.

I first found out what the density would need to be for this orientation:

75% below water or

X % = density of box/ density of water

.75 = p/(1000)

p = 750 kg/m^3 --> effective density.

p = M(sheet) / Volume(box)

Mass of the sheet is then = 6p(s^2)x

where s is the length of a side of the cube, x is the thickness of the sheet and p is the density of aluminum (2700 kg/m^3)

M = 16200 x(s^2)

Therefore: 750 = 16200 x(s^2) / s^3

.0463 = x/s

The problem is, there seems to be not enough information.
 
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Am I correct in assuming this?
 
Menisto said:
The problem is, there seems to be not enough information.
You are correct. Surface area is not proportional to volume. Even if you did a more precise calculation of the volume of aluminum as the difference between outer volume and inner volume, you can still go from essentially a solid cube of aluminum to a huge cube with a very small ratio of aluminum volume to air volume (low density) using the same thickness of walls. There has to be more information to solve the problem.
 
Ok, thank you. I thought I was going crazy there for a second, too many hours of homework. It doens't help when the professor makes his own course packet, and has to correct problems and answers for every homework set. It gets a little frustrating.
 

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