How to Analyze Ion Concentrations in a Mixture of Salts?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the analysis of ion concentrations in a mixture of salts dissolved in water. Participants explore methods for separating and quantifying individual ions from a complex mixture of inorganic compounds.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks methods to separate and quantify multiple inorganic compounds in water, mentioning techniques like HPLC, GC, and spectroscopy.
  • Another participant clarifies that the compounds dissolve into individual ions, suggesting that the focus should be on determining the concentration of each ion separately.
  • There is a reiteration that identical solutions can be created from different salts, leading to the conclusion that only ion concentrations can be determined, not the specific compounds present.
  • A participant references a definition of HPLC, emphasizing its role in separating and quantifying components in a mixture, and expresses the importance of knowing the quantity of each compound.
  • One participant emphasizes that the components in the solution are ions, not the original salts, providing an example to illustrate this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the analysis should focus on individual ions rather than the original compounds. However, there is disagreement on the feasibility and appropriateness of different analytical methods for this purpose.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of HPLC and GC for separating inorganic compounds, and there are limitations in identifying specific compounds due to the nature of ionic solutions.

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Hello

I need some ideas . there are about nine or ten compounds that are present in water

[((H3BO3),Ca(No3)2),KNO3, KH2PO4), (K2SO4, (ZnSO4)]how to separate the compounds ? how to measure quantity of each ?

I did google search , I got the HPLC , GC , spectroscopy , but I don't understand which method should I have to use ?
 
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You don't have these compound in water, but individual ions. All you can do its to determine concentration of each ion separately.

One method that fits them all can be difficult to find. ASA would be probably closest.
 
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Borek said:
You don't have these compound in water, but individual ions. All you can do its to determine concentration of each ion separately.

One method that fits them all can be difficult to find. ASA would be probably closest.
actually I am mixing all inorganic compound in water then I want to know the quantity of each compound ?
I did search , I don't have any Idea that HPLC , GC work to separate inorganic compound
 
vead said:
actually I am mixing all inorganic compound in water then I want to know the quantity of each compound ?

Identical solutions can be prepared using different compounds. If you dissolve NaCl and KBr, produced solution is identical to the one prepared by dissolving NaBr and KCl (assuming properly chosen quantities of salts). Thus you can't know what compounds are present, you can just list ions and their concentrations.
 
Borek said:
Identical solutions can be prepared using different compounds. If you dissolve NaCl and KBr, produced solution is identical to the one prepared by dissolving NaBr and KCl (assuming properly chosen quantities of salts). Thus you can't know what compounds are present, you can just list ions and their concentrations.
Hello
I got definition from page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-performance_liquid_chromatography
High-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC; formerly referred to as high-pressure liquid chromatography), is a technique in analytical chemistry used to separate the components in a mixture, to identify each component, and to quantify each component

do you have any idea ? Its very important to know quantity of each compound.
 
Components in the solution of a mixture of salts are ions, not salts themselves. I gave you an example why it is the case.
 

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