How to approximate instantaneous rate of change

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The discussion focuses on approximating the instantaneous rate of change of the function f(x) = 2100/x at 100 millibars. Participants calculated the y-value at this point to be 21 and discussed the necessity of using points very close to 100, specifically 100.00001 and 99.9999, to find the slope. The correct slope was determined to be -0.21 using the formula $$\frac{f(x_2)-f(x_1)}{x_2-x_1}$$. The conversation emphasized the importance of selecting appropriate values for x to achieve accurate results.

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The function for attitude vs air pressure is f(x) = 2100/x

1. Approximate the instantaneous rate of change at 100 millibars
a) Use the equation to calculate the point (100,___)


I found the y-value to be 21.

b) We need two points to calculate a slope, so to approximate the tangent line we use the equation to calculate a point very close to 100: (100.00001, ______) or (99.9999,_____)


So for the y-value are you supposed to find a number close to 21? But how do you decide what number is the most appropriate? Do you just put in any number of decimals you want?

I did 21.00001 where the slope equals 1. But, apparently slope is supposed to be -0.21. I have no idea how you come to that conclusion.
 
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To approximate the slope there you can use:

$$\frac{f(x_2)-f(x_1)}{x_2-x_1}$$

where $x_2$ is very slightly larger than the true $x$ you are looking at and $x_1$ is slightly smaller. What do you get now?
 
Jameson said:
To approximate the slope there you can use:

$$\frac{f(x_2)-f(x_1)}{x_2-x_1}$$

where $x_2$ is very slightly larger than the true $x$ you are looking at and $x_1$ is slightly smaller. What do you get now?

I know that, but how do you determine the number that is slightly larger? I did:

21.00001 - 21/100.00001 - 100

This gave me a slope of 1, but the slope is supposed to be -0.21. I don't know how you get the correct answer.
 
Raerin said:
I know that, but how do you determine the number that is slightly larger? I did:

21.00001 - 21/100.00001 - 100

This gave me a slope of 1, but the slope is supposed to be -0.21. I don't know how you get the correct answer.

They gave these to you. 100.00001 and 99.9999. Plug those into $f(x)$ to find the numerator. What are $f(100.00001)$ and $f(99.9999)$?
 
For f(100.00001) I got 20.9999979
For f(99.9999) I got 21.000021

Okay, I got the answer.

So, what if they didn't give me a number? what do I do then?
 
Well if this is for a calculus class then you won't have to use approximations much longer as you'll be able to calculate the true instantaneous slope but if you aren't given any test values for $x$ then I would start with adding and subtracting .0001 or so and then see how that answer looks. If it doesn't seem to be close to a certain value then maybe try adding and subtracting something smaller.
 

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