How to Be a Highly-Recommended Physicist?

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The discussion revolves around strategies for a physics M.S. student seeking to secure a strong letter of recommendation from their professor. It addresses the balance between acknowledging one's knowledge gaps and demonstrating competence in a research setting, particularly in the context of relativistic quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant suggests that admitting to knowledge gaps while leveraging existing knowledge is crucial for maintaining credibility in research.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of learning from mistakes as a key quality that can impress advisers.
  • A different viewpoint stresses the need to avoid arrogance and suggests that a physics B.S. is not a prerequisite for conducting research in physics.
  • Some participants propose focusing on immediate research needs rather than getting overwhelmed by the vastness of unknowns in the field.
  • There is a suggestion that a professor praising a new M.S. student is uncommon, indicating that the student should manage their expectations regarding recommendations.

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Participants express a range of opinions on how to navigate the challenges of being a physics student without a traditional background. There is no consensus on the best approach, as differing views on the importance of humility, knowledge acquisition, and expectations for recommendations are presented.

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Participants highlight the complexity of relativistic quantum mechanics and the varying levels of knowledge among students, which may affect their research progress and interactions with advisers.

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This discussion may be useful for graduate students in physics or related fields, particularly those transitioning from non-traditional educational backgrounds or seeking advice on professional development and academic relationships.

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How to Be a "Highly-Recommended" Physicist?

I'm doing work for a professor, and I want him to sing the praises of me when I inexorably ask him for a letter of recommendation. What are some do-s and don't-s for someone in my situation? I think I've found out a "don't" already: don't try and assume you know more than you actually do. I was assigned research in relativistic quantum mechanics, and all I knew was that moving clocks slowed down, lengths contracted, and also the moving clocks got heavier. I was afraid to be like "I don't know any of that stuff", because I didn't want to slow the research down with my ignorance. Needless to say, I erred on the side of "I know this stuff already", and may have inadvertently come across as arrogant and perhaps incorrigible, both of which "impressions" would warrant mention in a letter of recommendation I would have sent to PhD programs I will eventually apply to.

I guess I have two questions:

1) Given that I'm a physics M.S. student (at an M.S.-only school) without a physics B.S./B.A. (admittedly, a very unique situation: your best advice is still welcome), how do I strike a balance between "admit what you don't know" and "use what you do know to not look like a screaming physics-dunce, and not hold up research"?

2) More generally, what are some good practices for me to engage in, such that my present adviser sings praises of me being a "good" and highly-recommended student?
 
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First of all, is this theoretical or experimental? Sounds like the former.
 


bjnartowt said:
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2) More generally, what are some good practices for me to engage in, such that my present adviser sings praises of me being a "good" and highly-recommended student?

The best advice I can give you is to demonstrate that you can learn from your mistakes. That's surprisingly sufficient in most cases.
 


In general try not to be arrogant. And don't assume it is a sine qua non to have a physics (B.S) to do research in physics.

In research there's always vast territories where your knowledge is very limited, and what you master is an infinitesmall piece of land.

My suggestion is not to be obsessed with what you don't know, but to focus on things you need to clear off ASAP to move forward in your research. Picking up the material as you go along is the best time management possible... Knowing lots of textbook stuff or an incredible amount of math. may not move you an inch, if you can't define your NEXT ACTION... So set your priorities very carefully.

Relativistic QM is a broad field, so stop worrying about the details and try to figure out what the absolute essentials FOR YOU are, before delving into more theory.

A professor "singing praises" for a newbie M.S student is not a common thing to be observed, so stop worrying about this kind of thing also.

Try your best and hope for the best, and in the end things will work out.
 

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