How to calculate how much an aluminium tube can hold?

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The discussion revolves around the structural integrity and load-bearing capacity of an aluminum tube intended for use as a roller shaft in a roller mixer. Participants explore various factors affecting the tube's performance, including material choice, dimensions of the load, and potential design modifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (O.P.) seeks a formula to calculate the weight capacity of an aluminum tube used as a roller shaft for a paint can.
  • Some participants suggest that bare aluminum may not perform well long-term in this application and propose alternatives such as using a cover sleeve or solid rollers.
  • There is a discussion about whether steel would be a better material choice compared to aluminum, particularly considering the operational conditions of low-speed rotation.
  • One participant emphasizes that the calculation involves beam bending strength and mentions the importance of considering both stress and deflection in the design.
  • Concerns are raised about aluminum's abrasion resistance, suggesting that the tube may suffer damage from wear over time.
  • Another participant recommends covering the rollers in rubber to improve traction, especially if the paint has high viscosity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the suitability of aluminum versus steel for the application, with no consensus reached on the best material. There is also a lack of agreement on the specific design modifications that may enhance performance.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided a definitive formula for calculating the tube's load capacity, and there are unresolved considerations regarding the dimensions of the paint can and the specific loading conditions.

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Individuals interested in mechanical design, materials science, or those working on similar applications involving load-bearing structures may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi all,

I'm going to make a roller shaft for a roller mixer. I will be using a aluminum tube of length 900mm placed horizontally and the two ends will be help in a bearing. An another pipe will be placed side by side to the first pipe with a bit of space in the middle and held the same way as the first. A 10Kg paint can (5L) that's filled 75% will be placed horizontally in between the two pipes. (See the attached image of the design).

Currently I'm looking at this pipe to buy http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/tubing-struts/4355837/# . It's 1000mm but it will be reduced to 900mm.

Could anyone tell me a formula to calculate how much weight can the aluminum tube hold.

Many thanks
 

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Bare Aluminium tube does not usually perform very well long term when used in this sort of application .

Consider using a cover sleeve or spaced rubbing bands or maybe a smaller diameter solid shaft with several solid rollers .

Calc is easy enough though . What are the dimensions of the can ?
 
Would Steel be a better choice and if aluminum were use then how long would you say it would last taking into mind it will be spinning around to keep the paint mixing at very low speed.

The paint can dimension:
Height: 25cmn
Diameter: 18.4cm

Could you please post the formula so in the future I can calculate it myself.

Thank you
 
Just the one can on each pair of rollers or two or three ?
 
Ideally looking for a max of 2 per pair of roller
 
What the O.P. has described is a classic beam bending strength calculation, described in Wikipedia as Flexural Strength (but with a circular cross-section instead of rectangular), or more generally a simply-supported (or possibly fixed-support) Beam Bending problem. Calculated stress is covered in the Beam Stress section of the article, maximum stress occurs at the points furthest from the beam's center line for a given bending direction.

I agree with @Nidum that mild Aluminum won't exhibit particularly good strength properties, you're probably better off with a mild steel such as A36. If weight of the long roller is a concern, that might be when you consider implementing a material with a higher stiffness-to-weight ratio such as aluminum 6061 or similar.

Keep in mind also for your application maximum load may not matter as much as deflection; it's likely the bearings you mount the tube in will only allow a certain level of angular load, and as such stiffness of the material and its associated deformation under load will matter more than stress.
 
One of the problems with Aluminium in this sort of application is that it has near zero abrasion resistance . A few hours of rolling and the tube surface will be covered with rubs and scratches .
 
I think you will need to cover the rollers in rubber to get some traction on the can anyway. Especially if the contents has a high viscosity or can settle out.
 

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