How to Calculate Tension in a Hanging Sign Supported by Two Ropes

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in two ropes supporting a 20.0 kg sign, with each rope making a 60-degree angle with the sign. Participants explore the application of Newton's laws and the breakdown of forces in both the x and y directions.

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  • Participants discuss using free body diagrams (FBD) and breaking down forces into components. There are questions about whether to set equations equal to each other and how to solve them simultaneously. Some suggest substituting values from one equation into another.

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[SOLVED] Tension- Hanging Sign

A 20.0 kg sign is being held up by 2 ropes. Each rope makes a 60 degree angle with the sign. So there is an upright triangle, each angle 60 degrees. I have to calculate the tenstion in the two ropes.



So far, I have
\Sigma F_{}y=ma_{}y
+Fa_{}1sin60 + Fa_{}2sin60 = 20 kg (9.81 m/s^{}2)
I divided by sin60
Fa_{}1 + Fa_{}2 = 226.55 N
Each rope has 112.78 N


I'm not sure if i have to do the sum of the forces in the x direction or if the work i already did is correct.
 
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Draw a FBD then break it down into components and use Newton's second law...

x: -T1cos(theta) + T2cos(theta) = 0

y: T1sin(theta) + T2sin(theta) - Mg = 0

Now solve the equations simultaneously.
 
when you say solve them simultaneously do you mean set them equal to each other since they both = 0?
 
physicsma1391 said:
when you say solve them simultaneously do you mean set them equal to each other since they both = 0?

The easiest way is to substitute.

Hint: Solve the x component equation for T1 and substitute into the y component equation.
 
OK! i did this and got each rope had 113.28 N of tension.
 
physicsma1391 said:
OK! i did this and got each rope had 113.28 N of tension.

Looks about right.

You should have come up with T1 = T2 = (Mg)/(2sin(theta)) = (20*9.8)/(2*sin(60)) = 113.16 N.
 
yep! thanks so much!
 

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