How to calculate the size of a star with just temperature

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The discussion revolves around calculating the size of a star based on its temperature, referencing concepts such as the Stefan-Boltzmann Law and Wien's displacement law. Participants explore the relationship between temperature, intensity, and luminosity in the context of stellar properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of the Stefan-Boltzmann Law to relate temperature to intensity and the challenge of calculating area without knowing luminosity. There is also mention of using H-R diagrams for estimating size based on luminosity. Questions arise about the necessity of luminosity for determining area, and the implications of observing size effects beyond temperature.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the need for luminosity to find the area of a star. Some suggest that additional observational methods, such as those applicable to binary stars, may provide alternative means of estimating size. No consensus has been reached, but various lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that certain size effects must be considered beyond temperature, particularly for single stars. The discussion also touches on the limitations of available information and the complexities involved in estimating stellar sizes.

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Homework Statement


This isn't a specific problem, but my professor told us that we can calculate the size of a star if we know the temperature of it.

Homework Equations


Stefan-Boltzmann Law, Wien's displacement law.

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With the temperature i can also get the intensity with Stefan-Boltzmann law and intensity is power over area and area is what i want. But I don't see how I am supposed to be able to calculate area without also knowing the power. My professor also mentioned wavelength which I know I can calculate with Wien's displacement law if i know the temperature, but I can't figure out how that will help me.
 
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timnswede said:
With the temperature i can also get the intensity with Stefan-Boltzmann law and intensity is power over area and area is what i want. But I don't see how I am supposed to be able to calculate area without also knowing the power. My professor also mentioned wavelength which I know I can calculate with Wien's displacement law if i know the temperature, but I can't figure out how that will help me.

with the temperature of a star-T known
the amount of radiation emitted can be estimated using the famous Stefan- Boltzmann law.

therefore if one can estimate the Luminosity ,there are methods using H-R diagrams that its size can be estimated..
Energy radiated per sec per unit area is equivalent to stefan's constant x T^4 and
if the star has radius R
then one can relate energy radiated per sec to temp..
and if comparison is made with other steller radiators one can have some idea about its size
 
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So without knowing luminosity (which is just power?) then the area can't be found?
 
timnswede said:
So without knowing luminosity (which is just power?) then the area can't be found?

its difficult as some size effects must be there to be observed -apart from temperature!
at least for single stars.

for binary stars some eclipse method gives an estimate of size -
as binary stars move about its center of mass and can eclipse each other and during eclipse the emitted spectral line Doppler shift can be related to their speed
and the time of eclipse can be used to estimate their size.
 

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