How to calculate the size of a water accumulator

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The discussion revolves around calculating the size of a hot water accumulator, particularly in relation to varying hot water usage throughout the day. Participants explore different interpretations of what constitutes an accumulator and seek methods for accurate sizing based on fluctuating demand.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a procedure for sizing a hot water accumulator that accounts for daily variations in hot water use.
  • Another participant questions whether the original poster (OP) is referring to a hot water heater with a storage tank instead of an accumulator, which is typically used for hydraulic energy storage.
  • A different participant suggests that the OP may be referring to accumulators used in rural homes or boats, which serve to prevent pump cycling and water hammer.
  • One participant recommends consulting a plumber or plumbing store for local codes and provides a link to a resource for sizing.
  • Another participant mentions using equations for sizing but notes that existing methods do not account for variations in usage, suggesting that graphical methods might exist but are not readily found.

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Participants express differing interpretations of what constitutes a hot water accumulator and how to approach its sizing. There is no consensus on the terminology or the best method for calculation, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity on definitions and the potential influence of local codes on sizing procedures. There is also mention of unresolved mathematical considerations regarding usage variation.

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I'm in need of a procedure to calculate the size of a hot water accumulator. I already know how to calculate the size based on a single value of needed energy, but not how to take into account the variation of hot water use during a day and such. Hope someone can help :)
 
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TSN79 said:
I'm in need of a procedure to calculate the size of a hot water accumulator. I already know how to calculate the size based on a single value of needed energy, but not how to take into account the variation of hot water use during a day and such. Hope someone can help :)

Do you mean a hot water heater with storage tank instead? Accumulators are specific hydraulic equipment used for storing hydraulic energy typically.

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I think OP may be referring to accumulators that are used in homes in rural areas and in Boats/Yachts, that have their own pumps etc. Another name is pressure tanks and they prevent the pump from cycling on and off, all the time and also for prevention of water hammer.

As for sizing it would be best to talk to a plumber or plumbing store because there could be codes in your area. Here is a sample:
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex1136
 
stewartcs said:
Do you mean a hot water heater with storage tank instead? Accumulators are specific hydraulic equipment used for storing hydraulic energy typically.
CS

It's simply a storage tank with an electric element (or other source of heat) in it that keeps tap water at a certain temperature. I use some equations show here...

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/design-hot-water-system-d_92.html

...but although they consider time, they don't consider variation in usage. Supposedly there are ways to do this graphically, but I haven't found anything on it...
 

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