How to calculate time when falling off a building

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for an object to fall from a height of 25 meters, specifically in the context of a building. The original poster seeks guidance on the appropriate techniques to approach this problem, considering the effects of gravity on the falling object.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster contemplates using the speed = distance/time formula but recognizes the need to account for changing speed due to gravitational acceleration. They express uncertainty about using calculus and question how to approach the problem if the distance exceeds the height of the building.
  • Some participants suggest using the kinematic equations and provide a formula for height in relation to time and gravity, while others discuss the mathematical concepts involved, such as initial speed and acceleration.
  • Questions arise regarding the terminology used in kinematic equations, specifically the meaning of variables like 'u' and 'a'.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various insights and clarifications about the mathematical concepts involved. There is a mix of exploratory questions and suggestions, with no clear consensus reached yet on the best approach to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to high school physics and algebra, indicating that some participants may have varying levels of familiarity with the necessary mathematical concepts. There is mention of the need for calculus if acceleration is not constant, suggesting a potential gap in knowledge for some participants.

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Homework Statement



A friend of mine and me were walking through the city when he looked up at a tall building, let's say 25 metres, and said "I wonder how long it'd take to hit the ground if you jumped off". I was thinking about it and realized I didn't even know what the appropriate technique(s) are to solve such a problem.

So: where should I begin if I have an object and a height, (on Earth), and I want to know roughly how long that object would take to hit the ground when dropped from that height?

The Attempt at a Solution



I first thought about the old speed = distance/time formula. Obviously I want not speed but time as the subject so I pondered time = distance/speed. But of course the speed would be changing all the time due to acceleration from gravity. This made me think I should be using calculus. But I don't really know any apart from bare basic differentiation.

So I suppose I could figure out something like, 'the object has fallen 9.8m after 1 sec, then 9.8 + 9.8(2)m after 2 secs' etc. but if that's even correct, surely there's a better way - what do I do if I end up with a distance greater than the height of the building?

So then I thought I needed to integrate something but I have only done indefinite integrals which I think gives you a function from which you differentiate to get that which you just integrated. But I have no clue either what that function should look like, or what function I should be integrating, or if my friend's question can even be answered with basic calculus.

Would I have to compute something like, time = distance/9.8ms-2 ?

Thankyou.
 
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h = (gt^2)/2 & solve for t. g = your 9.81m/sec^2. h in m, t in sec.
 
Thankyou very much. Please can you tell me which area of mathematics I would learn about such things i.e. speeds and distances and times of moving things when the speed is not constant. So obviously beyond the basic s = d/t stuff. Would that be in classical mechanics?
 
there is a set of equations relating s, u, v, a and t. they are called the kinematic equations. They should be covered in last couple of years of high school/6th form (years 12 & 13)
 
Oh cool, thanks! Yeah I am afraid I stopped at year 11.

s, u, v, a and t.

What is u? And is 'a' acceleration?

Thanks.
 
3.141592 said:
Thankyou very much. Please can you tell me which area of mathematics I would learn about such things i.e. speeds and distances and times of moving things when the speed is not constant. So obviously beyond the basic s = d/t stuff. Would that be in classical mechanics?

This question is high school algebra or physics.

If acceleration (g) were not constant then you would have to have covered elementary calculus (1st semester college) and probably 1st semester introductory engineering-level college physics. Example: a car puts out constant power. What is the relationship between distance covered s and time t if s(t=0) = 0? This requires both calculus and probably 1st sem. eng level physics also. The calculus should probably include elementary differential equation solution.

(Ans. s = (2/3)(2P/3m)1/2t(3/2) where P = power, m = mass of car. IF I did it right!)
 
3.141592 said:
Oh cool, thanks! Yeah I am afraid I stopped at year 11.

s, u, v, a and t.

What is u? And is 'a' acceleration?

Thanks.

u = initial speed
s = displacement
v = final speed
t = time
a = acceleration
 
Thankyou both.
 

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