How to calculate work required to move an object

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The problem involves calculating the work required to stack eight books, each with a specified thickness and mass, on top of one another. The context is rooted in physics, specifically in the concepts of work, force, and energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of work using the formula w = Fdcos(θ) and question how to determine the force and angle in this context. There are attempts to calculate work for individual books based on their displacement and mass. Some participants express confusion about the role of energy in the problem and the meaning of symbolic form.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations and methods being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on calculating force and displacement, while others are seeking clarification on concepts and expressions. There is no explicit consensus on a single approach, but multiple perspectives are being shared.

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Participants are navigating through the problem with varying levels of understanding, and there are mentions of needing to convert units to SI for accurate calculations. The original poster expresses confusion about the relationship between force, displacement, and energy.

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Homework Statement


Eight books, each 4.3 cm thick with a mass of 1.7 kg, lie flat on a table. How much work is required to stack them one on top of another?


Homework Equations



w= Fdcos([tex]\theta[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


For the first book, there is no work required. The displacement was zero therefore no work was required. For the second book, the d=4.31 since the book must be lifted up, but I am not sure how to calculate the force and figure the angle. Don't I need to know where the books are to begin with?
 
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Your angle is [tex]\theta = \pi/2[/tex] here, because the force is vertical. For the force, use gravitational pull: [tex]F=mg[/tex], where [tex]g=9.8 \unitfrac[m][s^2][/tex] is the free acceleration.
 
If I understand this right, for my second book, I would have 112 J. I took [tex]\pi/[/tex]/2 = 1.57 then multiplied that by 9.8*1.7 kg and got 26.16, then multiply that by the 4.3 cm and got 112 J for my final answer. then for the third book instead of multiplying it by 4.3 I would multiply it by 8.6 cm since I will have two books under it already.
 
I get a different result. Please write down your final expression in symbolic form.
 
I apologize, but I am not sure what symbolic form is. Can you please explain further?
Thank you
 
Your force and displacement are in the same direction so W = F*d
 
ACasey, symbolic form is a fancy name for writing as much as possible in letters. That way, initial energy is

[tex]E_1 = 8mgh/2 = 4mgh[/tex]

if h=4.3cm and it labels the height of center of mass. The final energy is

[tex]E_2 = 8mg \frac{8h}{2} = 32mgh[/tex]

The difference is then

[tex]E_2-E_1 = 32mgh - 4mgh = 28mgh[/tex]

This is the answer in symbolic form. Plugging in the numbers we obtain the answer in numeric form.
 
I guess I was unaware of how confused I am with this subject. How is energy coming into this problem? I thought the formula that I would use is force which is F= mass*gravity then multiply that by the displacement which in this case would be 4.3 c.m. for each book. Then I multiply that by the [tex]\pi[/tex]2 and that would be the solution in joule? Where am I getting lost?
 
If you multiply force times displacement, the result is energy. The angle is not required here, so forget about it. You can follow my solution, or if you insist on your way, then the displacement for the first book is [tex]h_1 = 0[/tex], for the second book [tex]h_2 = h[/tex], for the third [tex]h_3 = 2h[/tex] and so on, then you add all them and the result obtains. Don't forget to convert everything to SI units if you want to get joules in the end.
 
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I would like to do it the correct way, but I am confused on the solution. I will get it figured out.
Thank you for your help.
 
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You didn't offend me. There are several ways to calculate this result, doesn't matter too much which is used.
Basically this is just conservation of energy problem.
 
  • #12
What about ...; A force of 30N does 180J of work across the floor . If the same
amount of work is done over a distance of 6m, how much force is doing work ?
 

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