How to debunk a quantum mystic?

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The discussion centers on the misconceptions surrounding quantum mechanics (QM), particularly regarding quantum entanglement and the observer effect. Participants emphasize that entanglement occurs frequently in nature through interactions between quantum systems, and that decoherence plays a critical role in maintaining entanglement. They argue that beliefs about consciousness affecting reality lack scientific validation and that interpretations of QM should not be conflated with mystical beliefs. The conversation highlights the challenge of addressing deeply held beliefs that may not align with scientific understanding.

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DaveC426913 said:
I have not seen it because it is mumbo-jumbo. Though, it occurs to me that perhaps I should see it so I can debunk it to the friends & family that recommended it...

Oh man, I tried to watch that and it's not worth it. You'll be so angry and hopless by the end of it, you won't see the POINT in debunking anything. It's Kryptonite for rational people, and Catnip for idiots. It felt a bit like someone was trying to steam-press every ounce of genuine physics out of my head and replace it with... OATMEAL! TA-ta-TUM! *jazz hands*
 
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I agree with Fredrik. The best thing is to focus on those paranormal things that the person thinks are supported by QM. I once argued with a believer in astrology and just went along with his reasoning. I only asked questions like "can you determine place and time of birth from certain events in a person's life?" Or how would astrology work for a person born om Mars, in deep space etc. etc.?
 
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QuantumKitty said:
It needed to be said.

By the way, have any of you guys ever seen the What the Bleep Do We Know documentary? (and I use the word documentary very loosely) It's full of pseudo-science, mumbo-jumbo crap. It's where he got a lot of fuel for his arguments.

I haven't watched it; reading the poor reviews of the movie were enough to turn me off and make me shake my head in disgust. :P

No need to watch it to debunk it, I would just read and/or send them a link of one of the bad reviews, since someone has done the debunking already.

here's one here: http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_the_bleep_.html

and another: http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/bleep/
 

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