How to Derive Energy Expressions for Bound States in a 1D Potential Well?

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The discussion revolves around deriving energy expressions for bound states of a particle in a one-dimensional potential well defined by specific regions of potential energy. The original poster outlines their approach and the equations they have derived, including the wave functions in different regions and the boundary conditions that lead to transcendental equations for energy.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to solve for energy expressions using boundary conditions and wave functions in different regions. They raise questions about the validity of their approach and the mathematical implications of equating two different solutions. Other participants suggest that the equations for even and odd solutions should not be mixed and should be solved separately.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the original poster's approach. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to treat the equations for even and odd solutions distinctly, and the suggestion to solve them graphically has been made. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by the problem, particularly in a timed exam context.

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Participants express concern about the difficulty of solving the transcendental equations algebraically and the implications of this for exam situations. The original poster indicates that the problem is derived from an exam paper, which adds to the urgency and complexity of the discussion.

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Question states:

Derive an expression for the energy of the bound states of a particle in the one-dimensional well defined by:

[tex]V(x) = \infinity x<=0[/tex] (Region I)
[tex]V(x) = 0 0<x<L[/tex] (Region II)
[tex]V(x) = V_0 x>=L[/tex] (Region III)

And its not been too bad. Up until a point.

I know for I [tex]\psi(x)=0[/tex].

In the region II [tex]\psi(x) = Acos(kx) + Bsin(kx)[/tex]

In the region III [tex]\psi(x) = Ce^{-\alpha x}[/tex]

where [tex]k = \sqrt{\frac{2mE}{\hbar^2}}[/tex]
and [tex]\alpha = \sqrt{\frac{2m(V_0 - E)}{\hbar^2}}[/tex]

I also know that at the boundary of II and III (x=L) that [tex]\psi_{II}(x) = \psi_{III}(x)[/tex]
Solving for the even parity solutions I get [tex]tan(kL) = \frac{\alpha}{k}[/tex] and for the odd parity solutions I get [tex]cot(kL) = -\frac{\alpha}{k}[/tex].

Now in order to find an expression for E I want to solve these equations for k (as k is a function of E).

Equating the 2 equations I end up with [tex]tan(kl) = - cot(kl)[/tex], which on first glimpse seems ok, but after a bit of working I manage to get this to cancel to [tex]tan(kl) = i[/tex], and correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure that I can't do the inverse tan of i can I? Does this look like the right way to go about attempting this question? Have I just messed up the maths somewhere? Is there anything you suggest that might point me in the right direction?

Thanks guys.
 
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Brewer said:
Question states:

Derive an expression for the energy of the bound states of a particle in the one-dimensional well defined by:

[tex]V(x) = \infinity x<=0[/tex] (Region I)
[tex]V(x) = 0 0<x<L[/tex] (Region II)
[tex]V(x) = V_0 x>=L[/tex] (Region III)

And its not been too bad. Up until a point.

I know for I [tex]\psi(x)=0[/tex].

In the region II [tex]\psi(x) = Acos(kx) + Bsin(kx)[/tex]

In the region III [tex]\psi(x) = Ce^{-\alpha x}[/tex]

where [tex]k = \sqrt{\frac{2mE}{\hbar^2}}[/tex]
and [tex]\alpha = \sqrt{\frac{2m(V_0 - E)}{\hbar^2}}[/tex]

I also know that at the boundary of II and III (x=L) that [tex]\psi_{II}(x) = \psi_{III}(x)[/tex]
Solving for the even parity solutions I get [tex]tan(kL) = \frac{\alpha}{k}[/tex] and for the odd parity solutions I get [tex]cot(kL) = -\frac{\alpha}{k}[/tex].

Now in order to find an expression for E I want to solve these equations for k (as k is a function of E).

Equating the 2 equations I end up with [tex]tan(kl) = - cot(kl)[/tex], which on first glimpse seems ok,
no! You can not set them equal! Those are conditions for the energies of the even and odd solutions..Those are *different* solutions so those two equations should not be mixed! They correspond to different solutions of the Schrödinger equation.

What you must do is to solve separately

[tex]tan(kL) = \frac{\alpha}{k}[/tex] and
[tex]cot(kL) = -\frac{\alpha}{k}[/tex].

Each is a transcendental solution. You must solve each graphically.

Hope this helps

Patrick
 
Is there no way to solve either algebraicly?
 
Brewer said:
Is there no way to solve either algebraicly?

Unfortunately, no.

Patrick
 
But this is the way to go about finding an expression for the bound states of the particle, correct?

It just seems odd to me that you have to do it this way, because while it is now a homework question, it is just a direct lift from an exam paper, where I wouldn't have time (or the capabilities) to draw these graphs.
 

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