How to derive the mass formula for a uniform sphere

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Gravitational force on mass m outside a sphere with mass M is given by [tex]F=G\frac{mM}{r^2}[/tex], where r is the distance to the center of mass. Gravity inside the sphere surface because of the mass distribution, since only the portion of the sphere mass is inside r contributes to the attraction. If the Earth's density is constant (which it definitely is not), so given the mass inside r of [tex]M'=\frac{Mr^3}{R^3}[/tex], where R is Earth radius. Gravitational force in the Earth's surface (r less than R) thus becomes: [tex]F=G\frac{mMr}{R^3}[/tex]

my question is how can we prove/shown formula [tex]M'=\frac{Mr^3}{R^3}[/tex]??
 
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Hint: What fraction of the total spherical volume does the mass < r occupy?
 
Doc Al said:
Hint: What fraction of the total spherical volume does the mass < r occupy?

what does mean with occupy?
 
aloshi said:
what does mean with occupy?
Occupy means 'take up', but I'll restate it differently. Since you assume uniform density, the mass is proportional to the volume. Compare the volume of a sphere of radius = r to one of radius = R.
 
Doc Al said:
Occupy means 'take up', but I'll restate it differently. Since you assume uniform density, the mass is proportional to the volume. Compare the volume of a sphere of radius = r to one of radius = R.

I can not really understand how to get
[tex]M’= \frac{Mr^3 }{R^3}[/tex]
“the mass is proportional to the volume” = [tex]M(V)=\rho \frac{4\pi r^2}{3}[/tex]
if we write [tex]M(V)= \frac{\rho4\pi }{3}\cdot r^2[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\rho4\pi }{3}=k[/tex]
k=constant
[tex]M(r)=k\cdot r^2[/tex]

can you show me mathematical how I can get [tex]M’= \frac{Mr^3 }{R^3}[/tex]
 
aloshi said:
if we write [tex]M(V)= \frac{\rho4\pi }{3}\cdot r^2[/tex]
That should be:

[tex]M(V)= \frac{\rho4\pi }{3}\cdot r^3[/tex]

Compare the total mass MR (where radius = R) to the partial mass Mr (where radius = r).
 
Doc Al said:
That should be:

[tex]M(V)= \frac{\rho4\pi }{3}\cdot r^3[/tex]

Compare the total mass MR (where radius = R) to the partial mass Mr (where radius = r).

but there is no evidence that the mass is [tex]M'=\frac{Mr^3}{R^3}[/tex]
can you show me mathematical, so I can understand
 
aloshi said:
but there is no evidence that the mass is [tex]M'=\frac{Mr^3}{R^3}[/tex]
can you show me mathematical, so I can understand
What does M equal? (Use the formula for density times volume.)
What does M' equal? (Use the formula for density times volume.)

Then just divide M' by M and see what you get.
 
Doc Al said:
What does M equal? (Use the formula for density times volume.)
What does M' equal? (Use the formula for density times volume.)

Then just divide M' by M and see what you get.



[tex]M=\rho \frac{4\pi \cdot R^3}{3}\\[/tex]
[tex]M'=\rho \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{M'}{M}=\frac{\rho \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}}{\rho \frac{4\pi \cdot R^3}{3}}[/tex]

this does not give us the mass, this give is the share
 
Finish the division--canceling things that can be canceled--and you'll get the formula you want.
 
Doc Al said:
Finish the division--canceling things that can be canceled--and you'll get the formula you want.

[tex]\frac{M'}{M}=\frac{r^3}{R^3}[/tex]
but that's not what I want, this give me the share, not the new mass
 
aloshi said:
[tex]\frac{M'}{M}=\frac{r^3}{R^3}[/tex]
but that's not what I want, this give me the share, not the new mass
Multiply both sides by M.