How to Determine Expansion Coefficients for a Wavepacket in a Periodic Box?

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The discussion revolves around determining the expansion coefficients for a wavepacket described by a wavefunction in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically for a particle in a periodic box of length L. Participants explore the relationship between the wavefunction and its expansion in terms of eigenfunctions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the concept of expansion coefficients and how to calculate them for a given wavepacket. Some participants suggest finding the corresponding eigenfunctions for the periodic box and using integrals to determine the coefficients. Others question the clarity of the original post and the definitions of the wavefunctions involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the steps to find the expansion coefficients. There is some confusion regarding the definitions of the wavefunctions and their corresponding eigenstates, but attempts to clarify these points are being made.

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There is a mention of normalization of wavefunctions and the need to clarify the terminology used in the problem. The original poster expresses confusion about the relationship between their wavepacket and the eigenfunctions of the system.

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I'm trying to get my head around the idea of expansion coefficients when describing a wavefunction as

\Psi(\textbf{r}, t) = \sum a_{n}(t)\psi_{n}(\textbf{r})

As I understand it, the expansion coefficients are the a_{n} s which include a time dependence and also dictate the probability of obtaining an eigenvalue whereby \sum |a_{n}(t)|^{2} = 1. I also understand that the expectation values of operators can be given as function of the a_{n}(t) coefficients given the orthonormality in the eigenfunctions, whereby <H> = \sum |a_{n}(t)|^{2} E_{n}.



If I'm looking at the wavepacket:

\psi(x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{\pi x}{L})

How would I determine the expansion coefficients of the wavepacket in the basis states \psi_{n}(x) for the particle in the periodic box, length L? I'm completely confused about the terminology here.

Any help/explanation would be massively appreciated
 
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you fist find the corresponding eigenfunctions \phi (x)for the particle in the periodic box, length L? Then you do this:

a_n = \int \psi ^*(x) \phi _n(x) dx

i.e

\psi (x) = \sum a_n \phi _n(x)

wave functions are normalised here.

So now find the eigenfunction for a box with length L, and do the integral.
 
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I thought that the eigenfunctions \psi(x)were already specific by
\psi(x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{\pi x}{L})?
 
ok your post was not clear.

You state that your wave packed was:
\psi(x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{\pi x}{L})

But that is the wave function for the groud state for the box with length L.

The eigenfunctions are altough:

\phi _n(x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{n \pi x}{L})

So IF your wave function was \psi(x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{\pi x}{L}), then it is trivial to find the expansion coefficients in the basis \phi _n(x)
 
Sorry, I should have probably just transcribed the question as it's written here:

What are the expansion coefficients of the wavepacket \psi(x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{\pi x}{L}) in the basis states \psi_{n}(x) of a particle in periodic box of size L?

I thought that maybe I'd need to use this relation:

a_{n}(t) = \int \psi^{*}_{m}(r) \Psi(r,t) dV

But that gives me a sin² integral which seems very involved for the question...
 

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