How to Determine Forces on a Right-Angle Slender Bar?

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The problem involves determining the forces acting on a right-angle slender bar, specifically the normal force at one end and the pin reaction at the pivot. The context is within mechanics, focusing on static equilibrium and forces acting on structures.

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  • Participants discuss the importance of constructing a free body diagram and using assumptions about mass distribution to analyze the forces. Questions arise regarding how to determine mass with limited information and how to approach the calculations for the reactions at the supports.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of mass distribution and the setup of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of a free body diagram and assumptions about mass per unit length, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations or methods to apply.

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Participants note the lack of specific numerical information regarding mass and dimensions, which affects their ability to proceed with calculations. The geometry of the bar and its configuration is also under discussion, with clarifications about its structure being necessary.

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So this is the question that is given

The right-angle uniform slender bar AOB has mass m. If friction at the pivot O is neglected,
determine the magnitude of the normal force at A and the magnitude of the pin reaction at O.

Now I don't really know where to start whit this or what to do at all. Any help with this would me greatly appreciated

Thanks
Joey
 

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Start by drawing a free body diagram. It would appear that both arms of the L would have the same mass per unit length, so you can use this assumption to find the weight of each arm in order to calculate the reactions at A and O. Once you have your FBD constructed, then you can write equations of static equilibrium.
 
Thanks for the quick response. I have thought of that but how do I go about finding the masses without any information besides that AO = 2l/3, OB=l/2 and that 30o degree angle at A.

With the free body diagram, Ill have downwards force(gravity), a force pushing back on A, anti-clockwise force at A and the clockwise force at B right?

This parts of mechanics is just beating me at this stage

Cheers
Joey
 
Johann said:
Thanks for the quick response. I have thought of that but how do I go about finding the masses without any information besides that AO = 2l/3, OB=l/2 and that 30o degree angle at A.

Like I suggested in my reply, assume a constant mass per unit length, ρ, and develop the mass of the two arms. Your final reactions will be expressions containing ρ, unless it cancels out somewhere along the line.
 
Does this mean that AO will have a mass of (2l/3)(p) and OB will have a mass of (l/2)(p)?
 
Yes.
 
So ill add both of these together to get the complete mass of the object, Should i then treat it as AO and then OB or do you wrok with the whole object i.e can it be two separate ladders leaning against a point or not?
 
AOB is a single bar in the shape of a lazy L, not a couple of ladders.
 

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