How to draw tetrahedral ice structure?

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The discussion focuses on drawing tetrahedral ice structures, specifically H2O molecules arranged in a tetrahedral formation. ChemDraw is identified as inadequate for 3D representations, which necessitates the use of 3D coordinates sourced from databases like the Inorganic Crystal Structure Database (ICSD). The conversation highlights the importance of file formats such as CIF (Crystal Information File) and XYZ for representing these structures. Visualization tools like JMol are recommended for creating images of 3D structures.

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  • Explore the capabilities of CIF programs for generating crystal structure files
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Is there any software that can easily draw a tetrahedral ice?

I was trying to draw a H2O molecule surrounded by other 4 H2O's (forming a tetrahedral ice) by ChemDraw, which seemingly was not very friendly to me.
 
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Well ChemDraw is good for and typically used for 'flat' structures. If you want to show a 3D structure, like say, a unit cell, you'll need the 3D coordinates, either by creating yourself, or getting a file somewhere like the ICSD (internet crystal structure database).

The typical files for this are CIF (Crystal Information file) and there's also XYZ (essentially raw coordinates) and other formats. There's a CIF program, as well as JMol and a bunch of other visualization software for creating images of such 3D structures.
 
alxm said:
Well ChemDraw is good for and typically used for 'flat' structures. If you want to show a 3D structure, like say, a unit cell, you'll need the 3D coordinates, either by creating yourself, or getting a file somewhere like the ICSD (internet crystal structure database).

The typical files for this are CIF (Crystal Information file) and there's also XYZ (essentially raw coordinates) and other formats. There's a CIF program, as well as JMol and a bunch of other visualization software for creating images of such 3D structures.
Got it. ICSD stands for 'Inorganic' Crystal Structure Database.

Thanks a lot. I appreciate it!
 

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