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Factorise $$x^2-y^2-x+y$$. Any Ideas on how to begin (Mmm)
The discussion revolves around the factorization of the polynomial expression $$x^2-y^2-x+y$$. Participants explore various methods and strategies for factorization, including grouping terms and applying known algebraic identities. The conversation includes attempts to clarify the steps involved in the factorization process.
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MarkFL said:If you observe that:
$$x^2-y^2=(x+y)(x-y)$$
and
$$-x+y=-(x-y)$$
then can you proceed to factor?
mathlearn said:Thanks (Yes)
so now to factor (x+y)(x-y)-(x-y)
Can this be factorised any further ? Agree ?(Thinking)
Many Thanks (Happy)
mrtwhs said:When you have an expression of 4 or more terms, a good strategy is the group some of them together. This problem has 4 terms. One try would have been to group 3 together and leave one by itself. Another approach (as hinted by MarkFL) is to group 2 together and 2 together. You have done this and arrived at $$(x+y)(x-y)-(x-y)$$. Now ask yourself how you would factor $$ab-b$$.
mrtwhs said:Now ask yourself how you would factor $$ab-b$$.
Do you know what "factorization" means? Did you recognize that ab- b= (a- b)b?mathlearn said:Hope this is the answer $ x^2-y^2-x+y=(x^2-y^2)-(x-y)=(x-y)(x+y)-(x-y)=(x-y)(x+y-1)$
But I am not exactly clear on how did $(x-y)(x+y)-(x-y)$ become $(x-y)(x+y-1)$, Apologies because I am not that much good at factoring. (Crying)
I know that this is the case, but can someone explain it a little , replacing the ab-b with the relevant terms.
If possible can a resource on factorization be posted.
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HallsofIvy said:Do you know what "factorization" means? Did you recognize that ab- b= (a- b)b?
Compare ab- b to (x+ y)(x- y)- (x- y). What do you think "a" and "b" are in terms of x and y?
Oops! Thanks!kaliprasad said:there is a typo error above ab-b =(a-1)b
mathlearn said:$x^2-y^2-x+y=(x^2-y^2)-(x-y)=(x-y)(x+y)-(x-y)=(x-y)(x+y-1)$
mathlearn said:$(x-y)(x+y)-(x-y) = (x-y)(x+y)-1 = (x-y)(x+y-1)$
MarkFL said:This is correct.
This is not correct. This should be:
$(x-y)(x+y)-(x-y) = (x-y)((x+y)-1) = (x-y)(x+y-1)$