How to Find and Sketch the Transfer Function for a Filter?

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The discussion revolves around finding the transfer function for a filter, specifically focusing on the definitions and calculations involved in deriving the transfer function and sketching it in a Bode diagram. The context includes parameters such as quality factor and resonant frequency related to the filter's components.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the transfer function and the calculations leading to its expression. There is uncertainty regarding the correctness of the initial calculations, particularly in the expression for impedance and its implications for the transfer function.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, indicating that while the approach is generally acceptable, there are specific corrections needed regarding the treatment of impedance. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify concepts and rectify misunderstandings without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of filter design and transfer function derivation, with attention to unit consistency in calculations. There is an acknowledgment that the final result may not be the primary concern, but rather the correctness of the underlying expressions and definitions.

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Find the transfer function for the filter on the attached picture and sketch it in Bode diagram, if you know ##Q_0 =\frac{\omega _0L}{R}>>1## and ##\omega _0^2=\frac{1}{LC}##.
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If I am not mistaken, we defined the transfer function as $$H(i\omega )=\frac{U_{out}(\omega )}{U_{in}(\omega )}$$
where ##U_{out}(\omega )=IZ##. $$\frac 1 Z =\frac{1}{R+i\omega L}+\frac{1}{i\omega C}$$ $$Z=\frac{-\omega ^2 LC + i\omega RC}{R+i\omega (L+C)}$$ So finally $$H(i\omega )=\frac{U_{out}(\omega )}{U_{in}(\omega )}=\frac{Z}{Z+R}=\frac{-\omega ^2LC+iR\omega C}{R^2-\omega ^2LC+i\omega R(L+2C)}$$ But I highly suspect this is wrong from the very start. I have no idea how to solve this kind of problems.
 
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The calculation is almost right. Your expression for Z can't be right because it involves summing L and C, which you can't do because they don't have the same units. In your first expression for 1/Z, you're adding ZC instead of 1/ZC.
 
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Thank you!

Well, the end result is not that important (Except that ##1/Z_c## part, that is important). I was just not sure if this: $$H(i\omega )=\frac{U_{out}(\omega )}{U_{in}(\omega )}=\frac{Z}{Z+R}$$ is right. I did the rest of the calculations using Mathematica.
 
Yeah, that's fine. That's just a plain-old voltage divider. It holds for impedances, not just resistances.
 

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