How to get the energy eigenvalue of the Hamiltonian: H0+λp/m ?

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The discussion revolves around the energy eigenvalue of a modified Hamiltonian of the form H0 + λp/m. Participants explore the implications of applying the momentum operator and its square to eigenstates, as well as the effects of adding a term involving momentum to the Hamiltonian. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and potential applications in quantum mechanics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that applying the momentum operator p to an eigenstate results in a state with the same energy eigenvalue, while applying p^2 leads to a different energy due to additional momentum terms.
  • Others mention that this scenario exemplifies "quantum tunneling," where particles can overcome energy barriers by utilizing momentum-related energy.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the previous statements, suggesting a potential deviation from the main point of discussion.
  • Another participant requests a reference to support a claim made earlier in the discussion.
  • One suggestion is to complete the square as a method to analyze the problem further.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of establishing a linear dispersion relation with a term like v σ · p, indicating a possible connection to semiconductor physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the implications of the momentum operator's application and the interpretation of the modified Hamiltonian.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include unclear assumptions about the eigenstates and the specific conditions under which the momentum operator is applied. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of quantum tunneling and its relevance to the problem at hand.

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We have already know the energy eigenvalue E0 of initial Hamiltonian H0. So when we add the extra item-λp/m, how the energy eigenvalue will vary?
Someone says we can choose the new eigenstate: exp(-iλx/hbar)*ψ,and let the momentum operator p acts upon this new state. At the same time, so does p^2. Something miraculous will happen afterwards. My question is: how to image this point? Thank you very much.
 
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The idea here is that when the momentum operator p is applied to an eigenstate, it will produce a state with the same energy (eigenvalue) as before. However, when the momentum operator squared, p^2, is applied to this same eigenstate, the result will be a state with a different energy. This is because the momentum operator squared contains additional terms corresponding to higher powers of momentum, which require higher energies to produce states with the same eigenvalue. This is an example of what is known as "quantum tunneling", where particles can pass through "barriers" of energy which would normally be too high to be overcome. In this case, the particle is able to "tunnel" through the barrier by utilizing the energy associated with its momentum.
 
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The idea here is that when the momentum operator p is applied to an eigenstate, it will produce a state with the same energy (eigenvalue) as before. However, when the momentum operator squared, p^2, is applied to this same eigenstate, the result will be a state with a different energy. This is because the momentum operator squared contains additional terms corresponding to higher powers of momentum, which require higher energies to produce states with the same eigenvalue. This is an example of what is known as "quantum tunneling", where particles can pass through "barriers" of energy which would normally be too high to be overcome. In this case, the particle is able to "tunnel" through the barrier by utilizing the energy associated with its momentum.
Sorry, I can't understand your statement. Maybe you have strayed from the point.
 
Jiangwei Du said:
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Where? Please give a reference.
 
You can try to complete the square.
 
Jiangwei Du said:
TL;DR Summary: We have already know the energy eigenvalue E0 of initial Hamiltonian H0. So when we add the extra item-λp/m, how the energy eigenvalue will vary?

Someone says we can choose the new eigenstate: exp(-iλx/hbar)*ψ,and let the momentum operator p acts upon this new state. At the same time, so does p^2. Something miraculous will happen afterwards. My question is: how to image this point? Thank you very much.
You can establish a linear dispersion relation with a term like ##v \mathbf{\sigma} \cdot \mathbf{p}## and you can add it your p^2 term to get some generalised k.p approximation useful for some semiconductors/semimentals. Is this what is motivating your question?
 
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