How to Guess the Particular Solution for y'' - 2y' + y = te^t?

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The discussion revolves around finding a particular solution for the non-homogeneous differential equation y'' - 2y' + y = te^t. Participants explore methods for determining the form of the particular solution, including the application of the method of undetermined coefficients.

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  • One participant asks for clarification on how to guess the particular solution for the given differential equation.
  • Another participant suggests that there are established rules for determining the form of the particular solution, specifically mentioning that for a polynomial or power of t, one should try a polynomial of the same degree multiplied by e^t.
  • It is noted that since e^t and te^t are solutions to the homogeneous equation, the proposed form for the particular solution should be multiplied by t to avoid duplication, leading to the suggestion of trying (At^3 + Bt^2)e^t.
  • A participant mentions their professor's choice of yp = At^3e^t as the particular solution and expresses confusion about this choice.
  • Another participant explains that the method of undetermined coefficients is being used and suggests finding the derivatives and substituting them back into the original equation to solve for A.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of undetermined coefficients and the need to adjust the proposed solution due to the presence of terms in the homogeneous solution. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the specific form of the particular solution, as indicated by the differing opinions on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the method of undetermined coefficients and the need to modify the proposed solution based on the characteristic roots, but the discussion does not resolve the specific form of the particular solution or the rationale behind the choices made.

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Students studying differential equations, particularly those interested in the method of undetermined coefficients and the determination of particular solutions for non-homogeneous equations.

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hello can someone explain how to guess the yp for this Non-homogeneous differential equation

y'' - 2y' + y = te^t

characteristic polynomial: (y - 1)^2 so the characteristic roots are: y1=y2= 1

c1 and c2 are constant

for yh = (c1)e^t + (c2)te^t

please explained how to guess for te^t
 
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I wouldn't call it "guessing"- there are rules you follow.

Any time you have a polynomial or power of t on the right side, try the polynomial up to the highest power. For t you would try At+ B. Here you have [itex]te^t[/itex] so try [itex](At+ B)e^t[/itex].

That's the basic rule. However, we also have the rule that when a possible particular solution is already a solution to the homogeneous solution, we must multiply by t to get something new.

Here, both [itex]e^t[/itex] and [itex]te^t[/itex] are solutions to the homogeneous solution. Multiplying [itex](At+ B)e^t[/itex] by t would give us [itex](At^2+ Bt)e^t[/itex] but since that still contains [itex]te^t[/itex] which is a solution to homogeneous equation, we multiply by t again: try [itex](At^3+ Bt^2)e^t[/itex].
 
My professor uses this as her particular solution: yp = At^3e^t but I don't understand why can someone help me?
 
your professor is using the method of undetermined coefficients, you will use that, find your y' and y" and plug it into the original equation, then solve for A, then that is your yp and you add it to your yh and you got your final answer
 

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