How to produce beam of neutrons?

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The discussion revolves around the methods for producing a beam of neutrons that can effectively interact with U-235 atoms to initiate chain reactions, particularly in the context of nuclear power and weapons. Participants explore historical techniques, the nature of neutron production, and detection challenges.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a beam of neutrons can be created using an enclosed neutron source with a beam port, and mention the use of neutron reflectors for collimation.
  • It is suggested that neutrons can be produced through the (α,n) reaction using an alpha radiation source like radium mixed with beryllium.
  • One participant notes that U-235 does not require high-energy neutrons for fission, emphasizing the importance of slower neutrons for inducing fission.
  • Another participant mentions the use of americium-241 in a vacuum chamber to produce neutrons, although they express uncertainty about its effectiveness.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the spontaneous fission of isotopes in uranium and plutonium, which can complicate the timing of chain reactions in nuclear weapons.
  • Questions are posed about the detection of neutrons, given their uncharged nature and limited interactions with matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the necessity of a neutron beam versus single neutrons for initiating chain reactions. There is no consensus on the most effective method for producing neutrons or the specifics of their detection.

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Some limitations include the dependence on specific isotopes and reactions, as well as unresolved details regarding the energy levels required for effective neutron production and interaction.

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I am just curious, for nuclear power plant or nuclear weapon/detonation, how to create a beam of neutron that's energetic enough to go inside the U-235 atom and trigger the chain reactions?

What was the most conventional or the oldest way to create this beam of neutrons in lab back in the 1900s? What kind of decay is this?

Side question: How was neutron even detected? It doesn't interact with most things.

Thanks.
 
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calvinjhfeng said:
I am just curious, for nuclear power plant or nuclear weapon/detonation, how to create a beam of neutron that's energetic enough to go inside the U-235 atom and trigger the chain reactions?

What was the most conventional or the oldest way to create this beam of neutrons in lab back in the 1900s? What kind of decay is this?

Side question: How was neutron even detected? It doesn't interact with most things.

Thanks.

Neutrons are uncharged so the only way to make a beam of them is to have a beam port in front of an enclosed neutron source. They can be collimated to some degree using neutron reflectors though.

You can make neutrons with an alpha radiation source such as radium mixed with Beryllium to produce the (a,n) reaction. The neutron was not discovered until 1932.

Note that U-235 does not require high energy neutrons to fission, hence why it is so important for reactors and bombs.

Neutrons may be uncharged but they still interact with nuclei by elastic scattering, as well as inelastic interactions such as fission.
 
calvinjhfeng said:
I am just curious, for nuclear power plant or nuclear weapon/detonation, how to create a beam of neutron that's energetic enough to go inside the U-235 atom and trigger the chain reactions?
"Chain reaction" is the key here. You do not need a beam of neutrons, some single neutrons are sufficient to begin the chain reaction. Both uranium and plutonium have isotopes that can decay via spontaneous fission, releasing neutrons. Nuclear weapons with plutonium have the issue that there are too many neutrons - without fancy setups, the chain reactions begins too early, and the bomb explodes before most of the material was fissioned.

Oh, and you do not need high energetic neutrons to trigger fission, the neutrons are not repelled by the nucleus - it is the other way round, slower neutrons have a higher probability to induce fission.
 
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From what I have read, you can use a piece of americium 241 in some sort of chamber (probably a vacuum tube to avoid collisions with air molecules) and have them exit through a small hole (covered with a metal foil to strip the proton from the alpha particle) at one end and through a tube where your uranium. I cannot be assured that this will have enough energy to do much, but it's worth a shot (no pun intended). Americium is also fairly easy to obtain.
 
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