How to Prove the Squeeze Theorem for a Tricky Limit?

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The discussion revolves around proving the limit of the function lim_{x \to 0^+} sqrt(x)(1 + sin^2(2π/x)) = 0 using the Squeeze Theorem. Participants emphasize the importance of establishing bounds for the function, noting that sin^2(u) ranges from 0 to 1, leading to the inequality 0 <= 1 + sin^2(u) <= 2. This results in the inequalities sqrt(x) <= sqrt(x)(1 + sin^2(2π/x)) <= 2sqrt(x), which are valid as x approaches 0 from the right. By applying the Squeeze Theorem, both bounding functions approach 0, confirming that the limit is indeed 0. The conversation highlights the necessity of understanding the inequalities and their application in limit evaluation.
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Prove that the lim approaches 0 from the right (sqr(x))(1+sin2((2pi)/(x))=0

The 2 indicates sin to the second power.
 
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realism877 said:
Prove that the lim approaches 0 from the right (sqr(x))(1+sin2((2pi)/(x))=0

The 2 indicates sin to the second power.
Here's your limit, in full LaTeX glory:
\lim_{x \to 0^+}\sqrt{x}(1 + sin^2(2\pi/x))

If you're curious as to how I did it, click the expression.

The key here is realizing that 0 <= sin2(u) <= 1, for all real u.
 
How to I solve this from the right side only?
 
The reason for the limit being a one-sided limit is that \sqrt{x} isn't defined for negative values of x.

What you need to do in this problem is to write an inequality like this:
A \leq \sqrt{x}(1 + sin^2(2\pi/x)) \leq B

and then show that A and B both approach the same value as x approaches 0, thereby squeezing the part in the middle. You need to figure out what to use for A and B. My hint in the previous post might be of help.
 
Would it be the sqr of x?

I assume that I have to plug in 0 for the limit. So by the squeeze theorem, the limit of the function is 0.

Am I on to something?
 
realism877 said:
Would it be the sqr of x?

I assume that I have to plug in 0 for the limit. So by the squeeze theorem, the limit of the function is 0.

Am I on to something?
Well, partly. Where I had A before, you can use sqrt(x). You aren't using the hint, though.
 
I'm lost.

The A won't be negative. Would it?
 
Okay, so it would be 1? But why is it between 0 and 1?

A=0

B=1
 
No.

Since 0 <= sin2(u) <= 1, what bounds can you place on 1 + sin2(u)? IOW, what's the smallest possible value of 1 + sin2(u)? What's the largest possible value of 1 + sin2(u)?
 
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The largest value is 1, and the smallest value is 0.
 
  • #11
No for both. The largest value of sin2(u) is 1 and the smallest value is 0, but what happens when you add 1 to sin2(u)?
 
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I'm totally lost.

Thanks for helping out though.
 
  • #13
The best I can do is that I know sin is between -1 and 1. But in this case, it's only coming from the right side. So the limit would be 0.
 
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realism877 said:
The best I can do is that I know sin is between -1 and 1.
More precisely, -1 <= sin(u) <= 1 for all real numbers u.
Also, 0 <= sin2(u) <= 1 for all real numbers u.
If you add 1 to all three members of this inequality, what do you get?

I can't do much more without working the problem for you...
realism877 said:
But in this case, it's only coming from the right side. So the limit would be 0.
And as I said, the reason for that is that sqrt(x) is not defined for negative numbers.
 
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In this case, I would have to add 1 to the right and side and the left hand side to isolate the function?

Correct?
 
  • #16
Yes. Since -1 <= sin2(u) <= 1, then
0 <= 1 + sin2(u) <= 2

So, for any real u, 1 + sin2(u) is between 0 and 2.

Now, how can you work this fact into evaluate the limit you're trying to find?
 
  • #17
From the left hand side, we multiply 1 to sqr(x).

From the right, we multiply 2 to sqr(x).

Once we do that, we calculate the limit, which comes out to 0 for both sides.

My problem is understanding why is 1 remained in the middle of the inequality?
 
  • #18
What you wrote is on the cryptic side, so I'll try to help you out. I think this is what you're saying:

\sqrt{x} \leq \sqrt{x}(1 + sin^2(2\pi/x)) \leq 2\sqrt{x}

Since the inequality above is true for all x other than 0, it's true as x approaches 0. Keep in mind which theorem you're using. Hint: it's in the title you picked.
 
  • #19
That's exactly what I'm saying.

I'm trying to look from an algebraic perspective. I want to know where the 1 came from.
 
  • #20
Which 1? The 1 that is a coefficient of the square root on the left? Or the 1 that is in the expression in the middle?
 
  • #21
The 1 in the expression in the middle.

It is written in the problem, then it is taken out and put back in.
 
  • #22
No, it wasn't taken out.

Here's the logic in this problem
For any real number u,
-1 <= sin(u) <= 1
==> 0 <= sin2(u) <= 1
==> 1 <= 1 + sin2(u) <= 2
==> sqrt(x) <= sqrt(x)(1 + sin2(u)) <= 2sqrt(x)

Now, replace u by 2pi/x, and take the limit as x --> 0 from the right.
 
  • #23
Got it.

Thanks!
 

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