How to prove this trigonometry equation?

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The discussion revolves around proving a trigonometric equation involving cosine and tangent functions: Cos(A-B) - tan(A-D) = (2cos A)/(sin 2A + sin 2B. Participants explore the implications of the variables involved and the validity of the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants attempt to simplify both sides of the equation and express everything in terms of sine and cosine. Some question the correctness of the equation, particularly the role of the variable D, suggesting it may need to be B instead. Others express skepticism about the equation's validity based on their analyses.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning the assumptions behind the equation. Some have suggested specific methods for simplification, while others have indicated that the equation may not hold true, prompting further exploration of the problem.

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There are indications that the original problem may contain errors, particularly regarding the variable D. Participants are also considering the implications of the equation's structure and its potential inaccuracies.

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  • Homework Statement

I opened my old math book and interested in this

Proof Cos (A-B) - tan(A-D) = (2cos A)/(sin 2A + sin 2B)

Homework Equations


Cos(A-B) = cosA cosB + sinA sinB
Tan(A-D) = (Tan A - tan B)/(1+Tan A Tan B)

The Attempt at a Solution


cosA cosB + sinA sinB - (tan A - tan B)/(1+Tan A Tan B)
Become
CosA cos B + sin A sin B - $$\frac {sin A cos D - sin D cos A} {cos A cos D + sin A sin D} $$

How to simplify it and proof it? It gets more complicated
Is there anyone interested too?
 
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Helly123 said:
  • Homework Statement

I opened my old math book and interested in this

Proof Cos (A-B) - tan(A-D) = (2cos A)/(sin 2A + sin 2B)

Homework Equations


Cos(A-B) = cosA cosB + sinA sinB
Tan(A-D) = (Tan A - tan B)/(1+Tan A Tan B)

The Attempt at a Solution


cosA cosB + sinA sinB - (tan A - tan B)/(1+Tan A Tan B)
Become
CosA cos B + sin A sin B - $$\frac {sin A cos D - sin D cos A} {cos A cos D + sin A sin D} $$

How to simplify it and proof it? It gets more complicated
Is there anyone interested too?

You can give a proof of something, or you can prove something, but you cannot proof something.

Anyway, I cannot see how the result could possibly be true, because it involves A,B,D on one side and only A,B on the other side. Perhaps if the "D" was really a "B" the result could be true. It looks nasty in that case.

Added note: I think the result is false. Let us write ##F(A,B) =\cos(A-B) - \tan(A-B) - 2 \cos(A)/ (\sin 2A + \sin 2B)## in fully expanded form as ##F(A,B) = N(A,B)/D(A,B)##, where ##D(A,B) = \cos^4 A -\cos^4 B -\cos^2 A + \cos^2 B## and ##N(A,B)## is some nasty 5th degree polynomial in ##\cos A, \cos B, \sin A, \sin B##. We can do a multi-dimensional plot of ##N(A,B)## to see if it is zero. When we do that we find it is definitely non-zero. See the plot below, where the axes are A and B, going from ##-\pi## to ##+\pi##. (All computations and plots were done in the computer algebra package Maple.)

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Ray Vickson said:
You can give a proof of something, or you can prove something, but you cannot proof something.

Anyway, I cannot see how the result could possibly be true, because it involves A,B,D on one side and only A,B on the other side. Perhaps if the "D" was really a "B" the result could be true. It looks nasty in that case.

Added note: I think the result is false. Let us write ##F(A,B) =\cos(A-B) - \tan(A-B) - 2 \cos(A)/ (\sin 2A + \sin 2B)## in fully expanded form as ##F(A,B) = N(A,B)/D(A,B)##, where ##D(A,B) = \cos^4 A -\cos^4 B -\cos^2 A + \cos^2 B## and ##N(A,B)## is some nasty 5th degree polynomial in ##\cos A, \cos B, \sin A, \sin B##. We can do a multi-dimensional plot of ##N(A,B)## to see if it is zero. When we do that we find it is definitely non-zero. See the plot below, where the axes are A and B, going from ##-\pi## to ##+\pi##. (All computations and plots were done in the computer algebra package Maple.)

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i realized too that why it's D.. maybe the question wasn't right
 
Ray Vickson said:
You can give a proof of something, or you can prove something, but you cannot proof something.
Fixed the thread title. However, you can proof something, but the correct verb form in the context of this thread is prove. See the definitions of the verb forms of proof here: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/proof.
 
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Mark44 said:
Fixed the thread title. However, you can proof something, but the correct verb form in the context of this thread is prove. See the definitions of the verb forms of proof here: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/proof.
Idk how to edit it
 
I'm fairly sure the D should be B. Generally you simplify the two sides separately, so

L.H.S. (left hand side) = ... (simplify)
R.H.S. = ...

And you end up showing the two sides simplify to the same thing.

General hints are get everything in terms of functions of A and B, rather than 2A, (A-B), etc., and convert everything into sines and cosines (get rid of the tan).
 
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qspeechc said:
I'm fairly sure the D should be B. Generally you simplify the two sides separately, so

L.H.S. (left hand side) = ... (simplify)
R.H.S. = ...

And you end up showing the two sides simplify to the same thing.

General hints are get everything in terms of functions of A and B, rather than 2A, (A-B), etc., and convert everything into sines and cosines (get rid of the tan).

As already shown: the stated result is false. See #2.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
As already shown: the stated result is false. See #2.

You're right. I just sat down to check this. OP you should check the question with specific values for A and B. The identity isn't correct. Looks like your textbook could be riddled with errors.
 
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