How to Solve a Log Equation with Different Bases?

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The discussion centers around solving a logarithmic equation involving different bases, specifically the equation log_16 (3x-1) = log_4 (3x) + log_4 (0.5). Participants explore methods for addressing the challenge of working with logarithms of different bases.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on how to approach the equation with different bases.
  • Another participant explains that log_16 can be expressed in terms of log_4, noting that log_16(x) = (1/2)log_4(x) due to the relationship between the bases.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the explanation provided about converting the logarithm bases.
  • Another response emphasizes the importance of providing context about one's understanding to receive better assistance.
  • A further reply reiterates the conversion of log_16 to log_4 and suggests using logarithmic laws to solve for x.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the explanations provided, as some express understanding while others indicate confusion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to solving the equation.

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Some participants may have varying levels of familiarity with logarithmic properties, which could affect their understanding of the conversion between bases. The discussion does not fully explore all mathematical steps involved in the solution process.

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Solve the log equation

log_16 (3x-1)=log_4 (3x) + log_4 (0.5)

Can someone get me started?

The left side has base 16 and the right side base 4.

How is this done when two different bases are involved?
 
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By definition of logarithm, $\log_{16}x$ is the number $a$ such that $16^a=x$. Note that $16^a=(4^2)^a=4^{2a}$. Therefore, if $\log_{16}x=a$, then $\log_4x=2a=2\log_{16}x$.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
By definition of logarithm, $\log_{16}x$ is the number $a$ such that $16^a=x$. Note that $16^a=(4^2)^a=4^{2a}$. Therefore, if $\log_{16}x=a$, then $\log_4x=2a=2\log_{16}x$.

I don't get it.
 
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RTCNTC said:
Solve the log equation

log_16 (3x-1)=log_4 (3x) + log_4 (0.5)

Can someone get me started?

The left side has base 16 and the right side base 4.

How is this done when two different bases are involved?
Do you know what "log_16" means? In particular, do you know that, for any positive x, if y= log_16(x) then x= 16^y? Of course 16= 4^2 so x= (4^2)^y= 4^(2y).

Now, take the logarithm base 4: since x= 4^(2y), 2y= log_4(x) so y= (1/2) log_4(x).

You can replace "log_16(3x- 1)" with "(1/2)log_4(3x- 1)" and have the same base:
(1/2)log_4(3x-1)= log_4(3x)+ log_4(0.5).

Now use the laws of logarithms to solve for x.
 
Thank you everyone.
 

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