How to Solve a Quartic Polynomial with x^4+1=2x(x^2+1)?

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The discussion revolves around solving the quartic polynomial equation $$x^4+1=2x(x^2+1)$$. Participants explore various methods for finding the roots, including factorization and trigonometric substitution, while addressing the complexities involved in the process.

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  • One participant suggests rewriting the quartic in standard form and factoring it into two quadratic expressions, leading to a system of equations for the coefficients.
  • This participant derives specific values for the coefficients and applies the quadratic formula to find the roots, presenting complex solutions.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the method's reliability, describing the process as tedious and prone to mistakes.
  • A different approach is proposed involving the substitution $$x=\tan \theta$$, transforming the equation into a trigonometric form, which leads to numerical approximations for the roots.
  • This participant notes difficulty in finding complex roots using their method.

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Participants present multiple competing approaches to solving the quartic equation, with no consensus on the best method or the completeness of the solutions provided. Disagreement exists regarding the effectiveness and reliability of the various techniques discussed.

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Some participants mention challenges in deriving complex roots and express uncertainty about the accuracy of their methods, highlighting the complexity of solving quartic equations.

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Solve $$x^4+1=2x(x^2+1)$$.
 
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I would first write the quartic in standard form and assume it has two quadratic factors:

$$x^4-2x^3-2x+1=(x^2+ax+1)(x^2+bx+1)=x^4+(a+b)x^3+(2+ab)x^2+(a+b)x+1$$

Equating coefficients, we find:

$$a+b=-2$$

$$2+ab=0$$

We have two solutions, but they are symmetric, hence we may take:

$$a=\sqrt{3}-1,\,b=-(\sqrt{3}+1)$$

Hence:

$$x^4-2x^3-2x+1=(x^2+(\sqrt{3}-1)x+1)(x^2-(\sqrt{3}+1)x+1)=0$$

Application of the quadratic formula on the two factors gives us:

$$x=\frac{1-\sqrt{3}\pm i\sqrt{2\sqrt{3}}}{2},\,\frac{1+\sqrt{3}\pm\sqrt{2\sqrt{3}}}{2}$$
 
You could try this. But I'll admit that I've never gotten through one of those without making any mistakes. It is, in a word, "tedious."

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
You could try this. But I'll admit that I've never gotten through one of those without making any mistakes. It is, in a word, "tedious."

-Dan

Hi Dan,

The link doesn't work...:o

And my solution is less clever than the approach of MarkFL. (Nerd)

First, I let $$x=\tan \theta$$ to transform the original equation and making it as $$\sin^2 2\theta+2\sin 2\theta-2=0$$.

I then use the quadratic formula to solve for $$\sin 2\theta$$ then $$\tan \theta$$ to obtain the numerical approximation of the answers where

$$x=\tan 23.5293^{\circ}=0.4354$$ and $$x=\tan 66.4707^{\circ}=2.2966$$.

Also, I was not able to find the complex roots as well!:o:o:o
 
anemone said:
Hi Dan,

The link doesn't work...:o
It should work now. Thanks for the catch.

-Dan
 

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