How to Solve a System with Two Equations and Two Unknowns?

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of two equations with two unknowns, specifically focusing on the equations: \(\frac{x}{8}-\frac{y}{2}=1\) and \(\frac{x}{3}=y+\frac{2}{3}\). Participants explore various methods of solving the system, addressing algebraic manipulations and substitutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about solving systems of equations and presents their attempt, which includes algebraic errors.
  • Another participant critiques the initial attempt, stating that the setup of the original equations is flawed and emphasizes the need for correct algebraic manipulation.
  • A different participant suggests a clearer simplification of the equations and hints at combining them to eliminate a variable.
  • Another participant points out the correct substitution method for solving the equations and provides a detailed step-by-step approach, although their final values for x and y differ from others.
  • A later reply claims to have found a solution, stating \(x = -16\) and \(y = -6\), but does not provide detailed justification for this result.
  • One participant agrees with the final solution presented, indicating that it works, but does not elaborate further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correct solution to the system, as participants present differing methods and results. Some participants agree on the need for clearer algebraic steps, while others propose different final values for x and y.

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Participants have pointed out algebraic errors and the need for correct simplifications, but the discussion does not resolve these issues fully, leaving some steps and assumptions unclear.

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I was reading the news and I found question 11 to be confusing. I never learned how to solve systems.
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Question:
Solve the following system for x and y
1)[tex]\frac{x}{8}-\frac{y}{2}=1[/tex]-------------------------2)[tex]\frac{x}{3}=y+\frac{2}{3}[/tex]

WORK:

1)[tex]\frac{x}{8}-\frac{y}{2}=1[/tex]-------------------------2)[tex]\frac{x}{3}-\frac{2}{3}=y[/tex]

1)[tex]=\frac{x}{4}-y=2[/tex]

[tex]x-y=8[/tex]-------------------------[tex]x-2=3y[/tex]

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Not surprising, since what you've written is meaningless.

You've got TWO numbers, called x and y, that simultaneously satisfies TWO equations.

Please set up the ORIGINAL equations, your attempt of solving them is totally flawed.
 
I am sorry that I had the wrong link. Now, it's corrected.
 
You've still got a lot of algebra errors in your GIF file and your post. It should look more like:

-1-
x/8 - y/2 = 1, which simplifies to x - 4y = 8

-2-
x/3 = y + 2/3, which simplifies to x - 3y = 2

Then you combine the simplified equations 1 & 2 to eliminate one variable, so you can solve for the other one. Do you have an idea of how to combine the simplified 1 & 2 to solve for y? Hint -- think about subtracting equations...
 
It looked like you were starting out correctly by solving the second equation for y: y= x/3- 2/3. But then your x/4- y= 2 is puzzling. I don't see where it comes from. Presumably the reason for solving for y was to substitute for y in the first equation: x/8- y/2= x/8 - (1/2)(x/3- 2/3)= x/8- x/6- 1/3= 1.
Then 3x/24- 4x/24- 1/3= -x/24- 1/3= 1. Adding 1/3 to both sides,
-x/24= 1+ 1/3= 4/3 so x= (4.24)/(3)= 8(4)= 32. Then y= 32/3- 2/3= 30/3= 10.
 
I finally found how to do this.
From equation 1, I found [tex]x=8+4y[/tex]
I used that equation as a replacment of x in equation 2.
I got x= -16 and y= -6.
 
Yep that works perfectly.
 

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