How to solve absolute value equation with two absolute values

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The discussion revolves around solving an equation involving two absolute value functions: 2|4x-1| = 3|4x+2|. Participants explore various methods and cases for solving this equation, including algebraic manipulations and case analysis.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests reformulating the equation as |(4x-1)/(4x+2)| = 3/2 and solving it directly.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to consider four possible cases based on the signs of the expressions inside the absolute values, although they believe only two cases are necessary.
  • A later reply discusses a method to check for two cases by dividing both sides by |4x+2|, noting that x cannot equal -1/2 for the equivalence to hold.
  • One participant expresses doubt about whether x = -1/2 is a solution, leading to a correction in their earlier claim.
  • Another participant advises against forming a rational equation due to potential undefined values and suggests it may not be necessary.
  • One participant outlines a case analysis approach, identifying three intervals based on the critical points where the expressions equal zero and solving for each case separately.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to solve the equation, with multiple competing views on how to approach the problem and whether certain cases are necessary.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential for undefined values when forming rational equations and the importance of checking solutions against the defined intervals.

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How does one solve an equation with two absolute value functions as below
My algebra book does not show how to solve with two abs functions.

2|4x-1| = 3|4x+2|

I thought this might work..

|4x-1|/|4x+2| = 3/2 then

|(4x-1)/(4x+2)| = 3/2 and solve the normal way..
 
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barryj said:
How does one solve an equation with two absolute value functions as below
My algebra book does not show how to solve with two abs functions.

2|4x-1| = 3|4x+2|

I thought this might work..

|4x-1|/|4x+2| = 3/2 then

|(4x-1)/(4x+2)| = 3/2 and solve the normal way..
Reforming as rational equation will not help.
Each expression inside absolute value function maybe be non-negative or negative, giving you four possible cases, but you really only need (placing stress on my logic), two cases.
You could be able to do this using : Both expressions are nonnegative; or one expression is nonnegative while the other is negative.

4x-1 maybe be nonnegative or it may be negative;
4x+2 may be nonnegative or it may be negative.
IF you want to check for the four possible cases, which is probably redundant,

2(4x-1)=3(4x+2)
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2(1-4x)=3(4x+2)
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2(4x-1)=3(-1)(4x+2)
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2(1-4x)=3(-1)(4x+2)
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You can soon determine which of these are the two redundant equations.
 
symbolipoint said:
for the four possible cases
There's even a method to simply check for two cases only, by dividing both sides by ##|4x+2|##, $$\begin{align*}2|4x-1| = 3|4x+2|&\overset{\ ?}\iff \frac{2|4x-1|}{|4x+2|}=\frac{3|4x+2|}{|4x+2|} \end{align*}$$ Since we're dividing by ##|4x+2|## we must have ##x\neq -1/2##, so for the equivalence to hold we must check that either: ##x=-1/2## isn't a solution, and if it's a solution then we must include it. (As it turns out, it isn't, so we won't include it) $$\begin{align}2|4x-1| = 3|4x+2|&\iff \frac{2|4x-1|}{|4x+2|}=\frac{3|4x+2|}{|4x+2|}\\ &\iff2\frac{|4x-1|}{|4x+2|}= 3\\ &\iff\frac{|4x-1|}{|4x+2|}=\frac32\\ &\iff\left|\dfrac{4x-1}{4x+2}\right|=\frac32\\ &\iff\dfrac{4x-1}{4x+2}=\frac32\ \text{or}\ \dfrac{4x-1}{4x+2}=-\frac32\\ \end{align}$$ I'm sure you could take it from here.
 
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Anama, I see why you should check to see if x = -1/2 is a solution. You say it is, I checked and it isn't , I don't think?
 
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barryj said:
Anama, I see why you should check to see if x = -1/2 is a solution. You say it is, I checked and it isn't , I don't think?
My mistake, thanks, corrected
 
I would avoid trying to form the rational form of the equation, mostly because it creates, at least temporarily, a possible undefined x value. The rational form also should not be necessary.
 
You could do this by looking at the three cases. 4x- 1= 0 when x= 1/4. 4x+ 2= 0 when x= -1/2.
So the three cases are x< -1/2, -1/2< x< 1/4, and x> 1/4.
1) If x< -1/2, it is also less than 1/4 so both 4x- 1 and 4x+ 2 are negative: |4x- 1|= -(4x- 1)= 1- 4x and |4x+ 2|= -(4x+ 2)= -4x- 2.
2|4x- 1|= 2(1- 4x)= 2- 8x= 3|4x+ 2|= 3(-4x- 2)= -12x- 6.
Solve 2- 8x= -12x- 6. (And check that any solution is less than -1/2.)

2) If -1/2< x< 1/4 then 4x+ 2 is positive but 4x- 1 is still negative: |4x- 1|= 1- 4x.
2|4x- 1|= 2(1- 4x)= 2- 8x= 3|4x+ 2|= 3(4x+ 2)= 12x+ 6.
Solve 2- 8x= 12x+ 6. (And check that any solution is between -1/2 and 1/4.)

3) If x> 1/4 then both 4x+ 2 and 4x- 1 are positive.
2|4x- 1|= 2(4x- 1)= 8x- 2= 3|4x+ 2|= 3(4x+ 2)= 12x+ 6
Solve 8x- 2= 12x+ 6. (And check that any solution is larger than 1/4.)
 

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