How Do You Solve Complex Absolute Value Inequalities?

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The discussion revolves around solving complex absolute value inequalities, specifically focusing on the problems involving the expressions |3x - 5| > |x + 2| and |x - 3| + |2x - 8| = 5. Participants are exploring the properties of absolute values and the implications of different inequality signs.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial attempts to solve the inequalities by setting up equations based on the equality of absolute values. There are questions about how to approach the inequalities given the properties of absolute values. Some suggest starting with cases where the expressions inside the absolute values are non-negative.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various approaches, including graphical methods and case analysis. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider multiple cases for the second problem, indicating a productive exploration of the topic without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are working under the constraints of textbook properties of absolute values and are encouraged to explore different scenarios based on the signs of the expressions involved.

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How to solve these two absolute value problems?

1.
##|3x - 5| > |x + 2|##

My attempt:
From what I read in my textbook, the closest properties of absolute value is the one that uses "equal" sign
##|3x - 5| = |x + 2|##
##3x - 5 = x + 2##
##3x -x = 5 + 2##
##2x = 7##
##x = \frac{7}{2}##

##|3x - 5| = |x + 2|##
##3x - 5 = -(x + 2)##
##3x - 5 = -x - 2##
##3x + x = 5 - 2##
##4x = 3##
##x = \frac{3}{4}##

However, this absolute uses ">" sign. So, how do you solve this one?

2.
|x - 3| + |2x - 8| = 5

I don't understand at all of absolute value problem like above one. Please help me.

Note: this is the absolute value properties from my textbook (please see attached file).
 

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askor said:
How to solve these two absolute value problems?

1.
##|3x - 5| > |x + 2|##

My attempt:
From what I read in my textbook, the closest properties of absolute value is the one that uses "equal" sign
##|3x - 5| = |x + 2|##
##3x - 5 = x + 2##
##3x -x = 5 + 2##
##2x = 7##
##x = \frac{7}{2}##

##|3x - 5| = |x + 2|##
##3x - 5 = -(x + 2)##
##3x - 5 = -x - 2##
##3x + x = 5 - 2##
##4x = 3##
##x = \frac{3}{4}##

However, this absolute uses ">" sign. So, how do you solve this one?

2.
|x - 3| + |2x - 8| = 5

I don't understand at all of absolute value problem like above one. Please help me.

Note: this is the absolute value properties from my textbook (please see attached file).
Start with the simplest case: what is the solution if both ##2x-5## and ##x+2## are both greater or equal to zero? What condition(s) do you get on ##x## then?
 
askor said:
this absolute uses ">" sign.
The abs() function is continuous, so as x varies continuously |3x-5|-|x+2| cannot switch between >0 and <0 without passing through =0.
Thus, the solutions you found for the equals case represent the boundaries for the positive and negative ranges. It is just a matter of testing values of x between and beyond those points.

For (2), you have more cases to consider. How many?
 
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Following on from this, I would say the simplest approach is to draw a graph of both functions to see graphically where ##|3x -5|## is greater than ##|x + 2|##.
 
PeroK said:
Following on from this, I would say the simplest approach is to draw a graph of both functions to see graphically where ##|3x -5|## is greater than ##|x + 2|##.
Perhaps it comes to the same thing, but I look at the points where the individual terms become zero.
In general, we have ##\Sigma a_i|x-b_i|>c##. The ai can be signed.
The function is continuous and consists of straight lines between the points ##x=b_i##. It is not hard to plot the values of the function at those points, and to see what happens as x tends to ±∞.
 
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