How to solve for x in this trig jumble?

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The discussion revolves around solving the trigonometric equation 2cosx - 2cos2x = 0 for the variable x. Participants are exploring different methods to find all possible solutions within specified bounds.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • One participant attempts to transform the equation into a product of sine functions and questions how to find all solutions. Another suggests using a quadratic form by substituting cos(2x) and discusses periodicity and domain considerations for the arccos function.

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Participants are actively sharing their approaches and reasoning. Some express interest in alternative methods and seek clarification on the bounds of the problem. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but various lines of reasoning are being explored.

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There is mention of bounds for the solutions, but specific limits are not clearly defined in the discussion. Participants are also considering periodicity in their solutions.

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Homework Statement



Basically I need to solve for x that satisfies

2cosx - 2cos2x = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I changed it to 4sin(x/2)sin(3x/2) = 0
Then I know that sin(0) and sin(pi) = 0
So solve for x(1/2) = pi and x(3/2) = pi.
I get 4pi/3 and the other one is out of the indicated bound.
But this is not the only solution. How do I get all the solutions?

Thanks
 
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zeion said:

Homework Statement



Basically I need to solve for x that satisfies

2cosx - 2cos2x = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I changed it to 4sin(x/2)sin(3x/2) = 0
Then I know that sin(0) and sin(pi) = 0
So solve for x(1/2) = pi and x(3/2) = pi.
I get 4pi/3 and the other one is out of the indicated bound.
But this is not the only solution. How do I get all the solutions?

Thanks
First off, divide both sides by 2.
Next, replace cos(2x) with 2cos2 - 1. This produces an equation that is quadratic in form.
 
There is a much easier way. :smile:
 
Do as Mark said, and the other solutions should become apparent. You didn't specify what the bound was, but remember that, for example, if sin(x) = 1/2, (assuming it is unbounded) the solutions will be π/6 +2kπ and 5π/6 + 2kπ . There may be more than one solution for each.

By the way, I'm interested in the easier way to solve it. Can you send me a message giving me a hint? It's killing me, I can't seem to figure out how to do it easier. Or was the easier way the quadratic?
 
mharten1 said:
By the way, I'm interested in the easier way to solve it.

Since the approach already given is pretty simple in itself, I guess there is no problem posting the other way, which seems simpler to me. Either way is pretty straightforward. However, to me it seems more direct to do this.

2cosx - 2cos2x = 0
2cosx = 2cos2x
cosx = cos2x
acos(cosx) = acos(cos2x) with proper consideration for periodicity (-pi<x<pi) and proper domains for acos(arg)

Of course, one can get the answer visually from here, but to be formal consider the proper domains for acos function (i.e. 0<=arg<pi)

for 0<x<pi/2 we get x=2x which gives x=0

for pi/2<x<pi we get x=2(-x+pi) which gives x=2pi/3

then symmetry about x=0 gives x=-2pi/3

So the three solutions in one period are x=0, 2pi/3, -2pi/3

Then these answers will repeat every integer multiple of 2pi
 

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