How to Spot Pseudoscience in an Age of Conspiracy Theories

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying pseudoscience in the context of contemporary conspiracy theories. Participants explore various criteria for evaluating the validity of theories, the role of media in spreading misinformation, and notable figures in the discourse on science and skepticism.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference Christopher Hitchens' criteria for assessing the reasonableness of theories, emphasizing the importance of testability and evidence.
  • Others express admiration for Hitchens' oratory skills while noting his limitations in scientific expertise, yet acknowledge his efforts to understand complex scientific theories.
  • Several participants mention the proliferation of conspiracy theories, particularly those challenging established scientific concepts like evolution and relativity.
  • One participant humorously notes a conspiracy theory claiming the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) opens portals to the underworld, highlighting the bizarre nature of some claims.
  • There is a shared sentiment that media and social media contribute to the spread of pseudoscience by prioritizing sensationalism over factual reporting.
  • Some participants reference Carl Sagan's "Baloney Detection Kit" and Richard Feynman's caution against self-deception as tools for critical thinking.
  • The "Crackpot Index" is mentioned as a humorous method for evaluating dubious scientific claims, with a specific anecdote about the Bogdanovich brothers being shared.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the impact of media on the perception of science and pseudoscience, with some agreeing on the detrimental effects while others focus on the bizarre nature of conspiracy theories. No consensus is reached on the effectiveness of specific criteria for identifying pseudoscience.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various examples of conspiracy theories and pseudoscientific claims without resolving the underlying assumptions or definitions of pseudoscience. The conversation reflects a mix of personal opinions and anecdotal evidence rather than established conclusions.

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Christopher Hitchens, “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.” So the next time you’re considering whether a strange new theory is reasonable, consider these criteria. Is it untestable? Is it needlessly complicated? Has it been introduced without any evidence? If an idea checks these boxes, then there’s no reason to take it seriously.

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Astronuc said:
A quick word on Hitchens as he a hero of mine, primarily because I have never heard anyone speak with such skill before.

I did not agree with everything he said in terms of politics but in terms of the art of oration, just beautiful and for me unparalleled.

In terms of science, that was not his area set and he was clear and honest about it in debates.

However he made a real attempt to understand the key points regarding the theory of Evolution and big bang cosmology.

His good friends were Richard Dawkins and Laurence Krauss so he had some decent resources to call on if he had a question!
Anyway conspiracy theories…

They seem to have proliferated somewhat in my view.

Every time I want to see an LHC post or discuss a James Webb image on Youtube there is a conspiracy waiting.

Latest ones?

Einstein was wrong. About everything apparently and Tesler was right. So SR and GR, gravitational waves and gravitational lensing all wrong and made up.

Strange thing is Einstein WAS wrong about expanding universe AND hidden variables but they do not mention that.

Latest on COVID is that it is not fake any more (mostly) but rather made in a lab and released deliberately, by who varies.

David Icke was right all along (although I think he has now changed his mind on the lizard/son of god thing, too painful to listen to him to confirm)

Evolution is wrong- this has a specific motivation not to be discussed but the arguments are changing (evolving)

Micro evolution is ok, macro not ok because kinds stay the same.

LHC (you will like this one) Is opening portals to the underworld and releasing evil spirits. The specific TeV required for this is not stated.
 
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pinball1970 said:
LHC (you will like this one) Is opening portals to the underworld and releasing evil spirits. The specific TeV required for this is not stated.
Now I know where certain politicians came from.
 
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I blame the media and social media.

Media orgs are factories with a mandate to churn out clickbait. They snuck in under our radar as if they were a news source, but they are, in actuality, an anti-news source.

Also, they have given equal voice to the ignorant as to the ...er... norant.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
I blame the media and social media.

Media orgs are factories with a mandate to churn out clickbait. They snuck in under our radar as if they were a news source, but they are, in actuality, an anti-news source.

Also, they have given equal voice to the ignorant as to the ...er... norant.
There has always been quackpottery out there, the net just gives instant access to all of it. If you really want to find that stuff. Sometimes it finds you when you are just looking at Science news items.
Some of it is so bizarre it sounds like they are making fun of it, OR they actually mean it. It is hard to tell the difference.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
An old classic, the Crackpot Index

John Baez, he of the Crackpot Index, exposed the Bogdanovich brothers. The story is so weird it hardly seems real.

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After plastic surgery to keep their youthful looks. Well, they don't look old....
 
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