How to trace over spinor indices?

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The discussion revolves around the process of taking traces over spinor indices in the context of gamma matrices, particularly in four-dimensional spacetime. Participants explore the mathematical properties and representations involved in this operation, including the implications of the trace and the use of anti-commutation relations.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on how to take a trace over spinor indices, expressing confusion about the treatment of indices in the trace operation.
  • Another participant suggests starting from the anti-commutation relation of gamma matrices and utilizing the cyclic property of the trace.
  • A subsequent reply expands on the trace operation, proposing an expression involving the trace of the gamma matrices and the metric tensor.
  • Another participant corrects the interpretation of the last step, emphasizing that the trace involves the identity matrix and the metric, leading to a different conclusion about the trace of the metric tensor.
  • A later reply acknowledges the correction and expresses gratitude for the clarification.

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Participants generally agree on the initial steps involving the anti-commutation relations and the cyclic property of the trace. However, there is disagreement regarding the final interpretation of the trace involving the metric tensor, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved on this point.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the representations of the gamma matrices and the treatment of indices, which may affect the conclusions drawn in the discussion.

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I would like to take the trace over spinorial indices of the following expression:

[tex](\gamma_{\mu}\gamma^{0})_{\alpha}^{\beta}=(\gamma_{\mu})_{\alpha}^{\gamma}(\gamma^{0})_{\gamma}^{\beta}[/tex].

How do I go about doing this? I reckon I could expand the trace out (let's say I want to do this in 4D) and use a particular representation of the algebra of the gammas, but is there a representation-independent way of doing it?

Also, it confuses me that in the equation above, if one traces over it, it becomes [itex](\gamma_{\mu})_{\alpha}^{\beta}(\gamma^{0})_{\beta}^{\alpha}[/itex], where the beta index is summed over properly according to the spinor northwest-southeast convention, while the alphas aren't. Is this a problem?

I guess my main question is, how do you take a trace over spinor indices?

Thanks
 
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You can start from the anti-commutation relation ##\{\gamma^\mu,\gamma^\nu\} = 2 g^{\mu\nu}## and use the cyclic property of the trace.
 
So you mean:

[tex]Tr(\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{\nu}+\gamma^{\nu}\gamma^{\mu})=2Tr(g^{\mu\nu})[/tex]

and the LHS can be expanded as

[tex]Tr(\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{\nu})+Tr(\gamma^{\nu}\gamma^{\mu})=Tr(\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{\nu})+Tr(\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{\nu})=2Tr(\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{\nu})[/tex]

So [itex]Tr(\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{\nu})=Tr(g^{\mu\nu})=4I[/itex]
 
Exactly, apart from the last step. The last step is really a trace of the identity matrix multiplied by the metric (##\mu## and ##\nu## are Lorentz indices, not spinor indices) and hence ##tr(g^{\mu\nu}) = g^{\mu\nu} tr(\mathbb 1) = 4g^{\mu\nu}##.
 
Of course, you are right. Thanks!
 

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